Spend more time shooting and less time worrying about bullets.
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Spend more time shooting and less time worrying about bullets.
Your scope in the photo does not look to be a dial able scope.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDub
Some on here can forget that not everyone is a long range shooter and dials every shot.
At the ranges you mention a middle weight projectile going faster will flatten your trajectory a bit making point and shoot type hunting a lot easier.
It is not until ranges get longer that the heavyweights have any significant advantage.
Years ago now when Night Force, PM II, rangefinder & ballistics program where "WTF are you talking about" I had a 7Saum Titanium.Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
When looking for load data etc because none was around, the cartridge was brand new, a well know guy told me to use N165 & 162 Amaxes.
I already knew the factory 150s beat me up @ 3150 fps, there was no way I wanted a hiding from 162s especially after checking their drop over my normal 0-300 yard hunting distances.
The 139 SSTs where really hard on the pigs up close, I went lighter to 110-115s, real fast & flat, they killed like lightning, holding over & recoil wasn't a problem.
I wasn't shooting big animals, mainly pigs with the odd Red & Fallow chucked it, it worked great with the Kahles 3-12 x 56 on top :)
Never should have sold it, replaced it with a Kimber 325 Wsm, would have been the first one in the country, it didn't work for me anywhere near as well as the 7Saum :oh noes:
I shoot 140g Berger VLD out of my 708, AR2209 48g is giving me 2660 from an 18' supressed T3
Dont get hung up on BC til you are shooting past 400, yeah it is important when calculating stuff but 5-400 dont get hung up. Get a bullet that is accurate and then work from there. I have sat and played with BC and speed in shooter and it makes jack all diff really, but only my honest opinion, i am sure there will be others that disagree. KISS Keep It Simple Stupid
Hamish
Velocity rules inside 300-400 yds , BC rules past there. But at the end of the day a 140gr at 2800 or a 162 at 2500 will both kill a deer.
Yep I came to the exact same conlusion, which is why I have a box of 140 nbt's sitting in the garage waiting for the neck die to arrive :DQuote:
Originally Posted by 7mmsaum
says a man with a three oh eight hahQuote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
You sure?Quote:
Originally Posted by gimp
does he not have one anymore? gosh
30 something ;)
But I like worrying about bullets, if I didn't I'd just keep buying factory ammo :P
I upraded to a 303.Quote:
Originally Posted by gimp
I didnt run heavy for cal in the 08 up close either, just makes no sense.
Just one thing:
Aren't 162 amax rather explosives on game shot at short ranges?
If it is the case, and if you are not shooting past 400 m, then maybe a more intermediate bullet would suit better.
How is that rifle shooting by the way?
My friend uses the A max out of his 708 for general hunting. Leaving the tube around 2600 if I recall. He has shot a few deer at bush range and knocked them all over.
Best to talk velocities that bullets are frangible at rather than ranges to keep things clear. The velocities you would expect from a 708 would have the amax at very good performance velocities within the desired ranges.Quote:
Originally Posted by Friwi