These are going 2900 from 20” barrel. Haven’t used any ELD in the saum but shot plenty out of my old rem mag at similar speeds. My experience was they both just lead and copper that kill well. I had one questionable result with a 162 eldx but nothing questionable on the berger yet - haven’t shot as much with it so far though. @Kelton has done a bit with the 162 eldm in his saum on top of the bergers and now 180 eldm. All good things
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