Thread: 195 eldm 300wsm FFFFFFFFFFFF!

Originally Posted by Blackmac

I use 62gr of RL17 pushing 200gr eldx at 2940 out of my 23inch xbolt, could get more fps but with groups around half inch why bother

This is why you shouldn't bother:



Edit: Speer show a max of 61.6gr with a 180gr bullet for 2934fps from a 24" barrel. Methinks your load is taking the piss a bit.

Originally Posted by Pommy

This is why you shouldn't bother:

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Edit: Speer show a max of 61.6gr with a 180gr bullet for 2934fps from a 24" barrel. Methinks your load is taking the piss a bit.

Seems ok to me and Hornady are more conservative than the likes of ADI or Alliant data.

I'd actually trust Speer over Hornady in this instance. Particularly with the software also suggesting that it's over-pressure. Hornady aren't always super conservative.

An alternative is the Sierra 195gr TMK. Accurate in both my 308 & 300 Norma. Gunworks normally stock these....& sample packs too I think

Thanks guys. I’m going to try the 200eldx. Theres actually published data with this projectile and hornady uses it in their precision hunter line so me thinks it’s worth a solid crack!

Hey pommy why would I make this shit up, I've used load for about 7or 8 years and only trying help Nic. You keep playing with your ballistic apps

Hi Nic, away tomorrow morning till Monday PM your number and I'll give you a call when back with COAL etc.

Originally Posted by Pommy

I'd actually trust Speer over Hornady in this instance. Particularly with the software also suggesting that it's over-pressure. Hornady aren't always super conservative.

You’ll love this then.

Blackmac, I'm not accusing you of making anything up. I've shared a couple of data points that suggest you've been leaning on it harder than you perhaps realise. McNotty has shared some data points that suggest it's alright... cool... so the water is muddy in this instance.

That Hornady data shared also suggests your recipe is right at or slightly above max. You're getting top velocities with a slightly shorter barrel and 0.8gr less powder.

Originally Posted by Pommy

Blackmac, I'm not accusing you of making anything up. I've shared a couple of data points that suggest you've been leaning on it harder than you perhaps realise. McNotty has shared some data points that suggest it's alright... cool... so the water is muddy in this instance.

That Hornady data shared also suggests your recipe is right at or slightly above max. You're getting top velocities with a slightly shorter barrel and 0.8gr less powder.

I tend to side with grt over books.
Especially hornady look at their superformance line jams bolts in a lot of cases it’s fine to run that load but I’d be wary of suggesting it

I’m a little confused. He is using nearly a whole grain under the Hornady book maximum and compared to Alliant powders reloading data, Hornady are very conservative.

Plus 1 for 195 tmk, use these in my 300 win mag, consistently sub moa at the range and great on sika at distance.

Originally Posted by McNotty

I’m a little confused. He is using nearly a whole grain under the Hornady book maximum and compared to Alliant powders reloading data, Hornady are very conservative.

My comments based off the psi from the grt clip in their looking at the hornady data it would suggest he’s spot on at right around max velocity for a 24” barrel, powder charge is irrelevant both of my rifles can’t reach book max charge weights but they can reach book max velocity’s

thanks for everyone’s input. I’ve ditched the rl17 for 2213sc and it’s a day and night difference. Groups have shrunk right down and es is sitting at 10 over 5 rounds. That’ll do!test it at 500 to ensure it’s holding true and we’re good to go. Wish I switched over at the start haha

ADI way more cost efficient as well happy days


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