Thread: 200gr ELD-X for 30-06

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

a projectile of 200 grns ish of weight going 2500fps ish isnt going to need to be tack driver...its not like you looking at 400 yard plus for deer???? that will still put you at 6" group at that range and anything under will be in big big trouble...at 400yard plus there will be better options and time to swap loads to your predetermind long range super slayer round....
good to hear you guys getting real world results with them....sure beats guessing if they will work.

No reason why not, at 2500 your still going to be putting shit to sleep at 600 no worries


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yeah to be sure...point Iwas trying to make (and seems failed miserably) is that a 1.5moa load of those whalloping stats is pretty farken good so dont sweat it if it isnt sub moa. some of us will never ever need sub moa to kill deer. dont write it off as piss poor load,maybe keep it for close to medium range and figure out something more tack driverish for waaaaaay out long if your heart so desires.... eg my poohseventy has 170grn round nose speer load that delivers a whallop if it would only do 2" at hundy it would still be my go to bush load(it so happens to be most accurate load of all,go figure) I can chuck in any of my other loads if so desire,flavour of choice at moment just happens to be 140grn hornady as rifle was sighted in for them and its sub moa and deer fall over.

Originally Posted by Mooseman

Yep, according to the Hornady 10th edition manual the max load for Superformance and the 200 gr ELD X is 56.7 grs. I just picked up a box of 200 gr ELD x bullets today and rushed home and loaded 10 up and shot up the forest to run them through the chrono and see where they shot in relation to the Noslar 180 gr BT. They were pretty close and only needed a little adjustment. I didn't have time to play around as I needed to be home by 3.00pm to ring my son in Canada. They grouped OK for a rush job, bit over an inch but certainly minute of Sambar deer.
I loaded mine up at 55.2 grs of Superformance and the loads averaged ( 7 shots) at 2660 fps which was pleasing. I think with more time It will shoot a bit better than todays effort so I will see next time I try it, but it's good enough for hunting.
56.7 grs according to the book should give around 2650 fps, I am getting that at 1.5 grs less than max so there is room for more speed but I don't think I will need it. Rifle is a Ruger American with a 22 inch Barrel.

Whats the book pressure, at 56.7gr? If it is published.

No info on pressure but I would think it should be fine as reloading books are conservative with there load data. Just start at say 54 grs and work up, you may be able to go above the book max but if you can only get around 2600- 2650 fps before you max out you still have a grunty load that will work a fair way out. Should be dynamite out to 200 yards. Recoil was no worse than the 180 gr loads I was using so all good in that department.
Danny will be keen to hear how your load goes.

Originally Posted by Mooseman

No info on pressure but I would think it should be fine as reloading books are conservative with there load data. Just start at say 54 grs and work up, you may be able to go above the book max but if you can only get around 2600- 2650 fps before you max out you still have a grunty load that will work a fair way out. Should be dynamite out to 200 yards. Recoil was no worse than the 180 gr loads I was using so all good in that department.
Danny will be keen to hear how your load goes.

Thanks, have loaded a few 5 shot groups, starting at 55, 55.5, 56, 56.5, 57 and 57.5 . Will be watching for pressure signs as I go (may not shoot the last group). Will also shoot them all through the chronograph ... just need some fine weather...

What rifle you using @Robojaz ?

Originally Posted by Mooseman

What rifle you using @Robojaz ?

Mauser 98, 1:10 twist, 22" barrel.

Same twist as mine and barrel length so results should be similar. Be interesting to see what velocity you get with those higher charges as I have only gone to 55.2 grs.

Originally Posted by Mooseman

Same twist as mine and barrel length so results should be similar. Be interesting to see what velocity you get with those higher charges as I have only gone to 55.2 grs.

Yep. Am looking forward to getting some results... bet my shoulder wont be too happy after 30 x 200gr loads.. haha

208 Amax using Superformance chrony read 2500 FPS today. Groups were horrible and nil sign of pressure at 55.5 and 56.
Will try a couple slightly higher to see if I can tighten them (no idea why) mainly because I can...


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mate in the states had similar issues with superpreformance powder with poohseventy loads.....funny when he stopped looking at chrony and looked instead at group size load was pretty darn good. might just need a wee tweek as all info on superpreformance says where its good its very good but seems to have narrow band of goodness.

Shoots the 168 and 155’s well. Have loaded another batch slightly hotter.


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The max load for the 208 gr A Max is the same as the 200gr ELD X ( 56.7 grs )and according to the book you should be able to reach around 2650 fps. R 17 and 19both do around 2600 fps. R17 max is 53.9 grs and R19 59.4 grs is Max.
What rifle you shoot Danny ?

Originally Posted by Mooseman

The max load for the 208 gr A Max is the same as the 200gr ELD X ( 56.7 grs )and according to the book you should be able to reach around 2650 fps. R 17 and 19both do around 2600 fps. R17 max is 53.9 grs and R19 59.4 grs is Max.
What rifle you shoot Danny ?

Blaser R8.

Ive loaded a few at 56.0 to see how they group as the 55.5 were 2 MOA vertical. As I said no sign of pressure at even the one I tried @56.0.


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Sometimes a rifle or powder/ projectile combo may not click. Have you tried other powders with that bullet in that rifle before? If so how did they shoot ?