I got them about 5 years ago the guy didn't really know what they were for but having played with the hornet for a long time as soon as I saw them I thought perfect hornet pills. I'm using 12.5gn lil gun with these in a krico. I dont know who has them but I always keep an eye out for them...the 35 v max would be good on rabbits I use them on possums and have used them on goats as well
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