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I can't remember how long ago, maybe 20yrs or so Richard Wilhelm sold projectiles like that, I bought a few 1000 off him as they were quite cheap.Quote:
Originally Posted by blip
The ones I bought were in screw boxes and I think from memory 500 per box, ideal projectile for the Hornet.
Hello @19Badger yes a couple of people have mentioned Richard Wilhelm, but he shut up shop in 2020 first round ov Covid-19. Apparently did do some TradeMe sails after 2020 but appears to be gone now. Cheers HughQuote:
Originally Posted by 19Badger
Well my 40 gr vmax arrived, I loaded three, now to get them to feed into the mag I ended up pushing the projectile down enough to just touch the end, not satisfactory but they did feed beautifully. I did fire them and I must have fired at the wrong spot, I had old spots all over. Anyway get back home and had a brainwave, out with the little pliers and ripped off the red plastic bits,easy peasy, back down to the range and very pleased to get a tight group, but slightly high and 1 1/2 inches to right. Back again to load three more and now with no nose to worry about I seated them longer, back to range and no problem feeding into the chamber, had lots of problems with normal hornet ammo but these babies fed marvellous. Now the longer seating gave me a bigger group but now slightly left of target. Have three more ready to go in the morning.
Shall play with the seating but the feeding is out of this world for a hornet.
In case anyone wants to comment on firing the vmax without a plastic tip I shall tell a little story.
Had a 6.5 in 204 case and got some cheap 85 gr speers, these were damn effective, on wallaby's I shot one in the head at 328 yrs as that's all that was poking out of the gorse, micky ducks fav spot, so I'm not too worried on performance. More tomorrow.
What hornet do you have? Never had feeding problems with any of mine
I have two 465s.Quote:
Originally Posted by blip
Three more this morning. By seating a little deeper I got an xtra 15 fps. Up from a pedestrian 2135 to a screaming 2150 average.
I tried feeding from the side as in rifle lying down and then slowly and these vmaxs less the red knob feed flawlessly. Happy chappy.
Now to sight in at a ton and look out rabbits and others.
Interesting. I have been avoiding pointy projectiles, like VMax, because my understanding is the Hornet was developed (or be it 100 years ago).to shoot round nosed bullets. I've been loading the 40grn Winchester HP W/C on the right of photo. Just now the courier has delivered Speer #1023 45grn Sptzer SP BC 0.143, which I like the look of for smooth feeding. Got 8 projectiles now for comparison. Going to load ten of each with same powder charge, 10 or 11 guns AR2207 and see which feeds and groups best. Might milk bottles test them too.Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokeyJason
It is fairly academic because any of these projectiles will kill well, but good to know in terms of what is available in times of shortages.Attachment 241949
I BELIEVE/THINK the short bit has more to do with being able to stabilise in slow twist at slower speed....dont think plastic tip will effect that so much as no weight in it... happy to be proved wrong. its the overall length of the heavy bit that counts...why barnes suck in slow twists lol
. To start the process I first got a hold of some 46 gr winchester soft point(hard to find 22 hornet ammo here, 88 bucks per box of fifty, now 105) then some ppu 45 gr and more winchester in 45 gr hollow, something like that.
None would group tight.
Now this morning with the new 40 gr vmax minus the red knob it's doing a very happy tight smiley face, very pleased with that.
So give them a go Hugh if you want maybe a smaller rabbits eye group.
I remember once you couldnt get bullets with trendy coloured tips. They still seemed to work as well....
@rupert
I found 2207 too slow. I have been using 11.2gr of Lil Gun with a 40gr Sierra bullet and SPP for 3,100ft/sec. This was the most accurate load. After accuracy testing I checked for longevity: fired the same charge/bullet/etc in a single case 20 times and the case still had more life left in it (but the neck certainly needed annealing). Rifle: BRNO 465. I have not tested Hodgdon CFE BLK which gets a lot of internet love for high and consistent velocity.
hi I tried the 11.2gns of lilgun and small pistol primer with 40gn bullet great result in my old savage 23 all touching at 50 meters I tried 223 and 224 projectiles 224 slightly tighter but nothing in it I have a lot of lilgun powder on had will try this in my ruger 22 hornet and see how it goes thanks for the load rupert
