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Greetings to all you good guys.
I have a thousand Winchester 46gn HP projectiles ( WB22HP46 ) that I'd like to develop a target load for. Will be using new brass - Lapua and/or Sako.
Have no need or desire for blistering speed - I'm looking to get one hole accuracy from my Sako Vixen @ 100mtr.
Powders that I have are 05, 06H, 09, VV130, VV133 in reasonably plentiful supply.
Have any of you worked up anything that I might use as a starting point?
Thanks,
49er
N130 should be pretty good. See what Vihtavuori say and work up from there.
the 2206h would be my starting point...crazy looking at the data for it...Ive pretty much been using trebly load in my .223 for 30 years. 24.5grns wont be far off.
748. The magic powder for the triple deuce. 60gr Hornday SP. 24gr 748.
Vihtavouri suggest the N130 as ideal. Your 133 will work but is compressed at max load so you'll have to see what it looks like:
https://www.vihtavuori.com/reloading...g/?cartridge=5
I was just loading some light bullets in a 223 with N130 yesterday for the first time. It is very fine powder but surprisingly it seemed quite bulky with the load coming up into the neck. A slower pour and a bit of case tapping and it settled down into the case a lot. Good luck!
Thanks, guys.
I'll have a look at VV and ADI.
Interesting that the ADI data (2206H) shows 23.8 ( C ) being maximum for a 45grn projectile.
24.5 grn might be a bit over the top in a 222 - might be OK in a 223. Case capacity somewhat more in the 223.
748 powder I do not have. I'll try what I have to begin with.
49er
ADI Benchmark 2, best powder ever for the trebly. 40 to 52grn pills.
2207. 19.5 grains. Any 50 - 55 grain bullet you like.
Why did I say in my original query that I will be using 46grn projectiles?Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnDuxbury
A 46 gn pill will work fine with a 50-55 pill load. A touch slower but you’ll play with the charge a bit to get best accuracy .
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Hi mate,Quote:
Originally Posted by no1_49er
That's exactly what I would do. No reason why 2206H wouldn't work.
Don't be a cunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by no1_49er
Thanks for your valued input in the quest for knowledge. Your input is appreciated.Quote:
Originally Posted by caberslash
Have a wonderful day.
"Originally Posted by caberslash
Don't be a cunt."
That is utter garbage. 49er was clear he stated he had 1k of bullets he wanted to use and included the powder options.
He got replies suggesting different bullet weights and powders he doesn't have. The info provided was totally useless. Infact one suggested what was likely way over max. And you wonder why he wasnt appreciative.
Comes to something when all this data exists from reputable sources, can be accessed for free via the internet, yet OP still wants to be spoon fed by other members?Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldbloke
:wtfsmilie:
Yes, true. Its also true that your mother should have taught you to have a bit of common decency and a few basic manners.Quote:
Originally Posted by caberslash
really????? and how many years have you reloaded...a 50grn load is going to be safe wit ha 46grn projectile because you have REDUCED PAYLOAD=REDUCED PRESSURE.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldbloke
my bad I was looking in manual that has 2206 data not 2206h data...FROM MY EXPERIENCE in 223 over the last 30 years,the 2 are that close to the same to make no difference ....but Im not hot rodding loads.
that page is from ADI paper manual 3rd edition.
23.8g of 2206H is the recommended max for a 45gr bullet.
Attachment 213227
at 35,900cup..........yip it sure is NOW.......
you will notice the other powders have dropped too..BM2 is showing lower charge weight.so is 2207
about the time manufactures got scared of lawyers
Shush been using it in 223 for years, Richard Wilh..... had alot of it going at good prices, modest charges, great speed, good accuracy and 100% burn rate. Those prices have gone now, Damn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pommy
Interested to hear how you go.I'm about at the same page but will be giving CFE Blk a try.Plenty of info out there. Long live the fabulous trebly!Quote:
Originally Posted by no1_49er
That is why Harveys first edition is worth its weight in gold. The book is about "50" years old. LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
Greetings @no1_49er,
I used BM8208 in the .222 recently and got excellent accuracy. BM8208 is a dense powder so you don't run out of capacity as you do with AR2206H. I am starting to use the powder in my .223 rifles for the same reason. Your cases will be heavier than the Winchester and with less capacity so a slightly faster powder will help with this.
Regards Grandpamac.
I don't wish to get into a spat , but in fairness it's considered standard and safe practice to use data from the next bullet weight ups' starting charge . If there is none available for a particular bullet weight , that is .Quote:
Originally Posted by no1_49er
I did check the VV app and there is data for 50 grain bullets using N133 but not 46 grain bullets . The app is free to download. Everyone likes free .
Mark
For the OP… you need to post up some picks of your vixen please 🙏
I use a 50 gr projectile in my L461 .222 with AR2206H powder.
I’m keen to see how the 46 gr projectiles work out for you
