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Originally Posted by Nick-D
Holy shit Bruce! I would love to try some fusions in the 284, see blackwatch is doing 140s and 160 grain variants in 7mm
Im loading the 160 in my 7mmsaum. Brian uses the 150 in his 270wsm and they are excellent, and I tried the 150 in my 300saum and they killed well too, Very good bullets and their beauty is that they are no problem to get to shoot well.Quote:
Originally Posted by superdiver
I've gone full circle and back to loading partitions. I did not love the ELD-X at all they were very accurate but very explody. Shot one deer in the shoulder and whole front end was rooted
I wanted to shoot partitions but they are pricey so under @chainsaws recommendations I went with the speer hcsp. Less than half the price and are terrific performersQuote:
Originally Posted by mikee
The only problem with regular projectiles is they don't make me as horny when pawing over the ballistics chart.
They are also pretty well priced tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
A valid point.
I found partitions a good round but not especially accurate when compared to the Amax and then its successor the ELDM. Good for close and personal (N.P) but I found they wandered in grouping out past 200, just when you want them to be a bit tighter.
Thats in a standard 260 Rem, I went down the sample pack path from gunworks, tried all sorts, probably everything that Nosler has in that cal, none got the accuracy of the Hornady range...... might be just my rifle. But when you know your rifle is laying down repeatable performance it inspires greater confidence, and that may be why people swear by the Eld style. They can put the bullet where it needs to be, that equates to respecting the animal.
Also a fan of the BTs. I use 150gns in the 7mmRM and just yesterday loaded up some 165s in my 308 (left overs from when I had a 300WM). Went out in the evening and knocked over a red yearling at 100m and it did exactly what it was supposed to. Not a huge test I know but I expect it will only ever see reds and pigs and it won't be getting it's legs stretched much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
Interesting @R93 has had such bad experiences with the Accubonds. They were my go to for the 270win (140gn @3000fps) for 10 years and did a great job. Admittedly I wasn't shooting tahr (not very experienced when it come to them), just reds, sika and pigs but I couldn't fault them. Here is a photo of some I recovered from animals over the years (most went in one side and out the other).
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Some animals did travel 30-40m but that I put down to shot placement not any failing of the projectile. I only ever remember loosing one animal using them. That was a sika stag I shot front on in the chest at about 5m. It turned and ran, never to be seen again despite 3 1/2 hours searching on two separate days.:(
Tahr are goats, 22 should do it ;)
Oh @Gibo that big spoon you've got will get in trouble one day :thumbsup:
Yes he should have added.... but normal goats have bigger horns!Quote:
Originally Posted by johnd
And angora goats have thicker coats ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kudu
Truth is they are all just lumps of copper and lead that regardless of their design and tolerances will act all silly from time to time. None are totally predictable.
And by far the majority of game animals shot in NZ are likely knocked over by Federal Blue box factory Ammo (in 308?). And half of them probably at night.
Its only us fiddlers and enthusiasts at the margins that fuss over bullets and stuff. And the more we fuss the more we experiment, the more likely we are to have failures.
Meanwhile the rest just get on with their very predictable blue box ammo, and are very happy doing it. :)
You make it sound very attractive!
How do you find the BC and drop of the ballistic tips compared to the fancy bullets?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
They look pretty attractive cos they're cheap.
Not that cheap as they are only boxes of 50.Quote:
Originally Posted by Russian 22.
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Out to the 500 yards I ever shoot to I don't think BC is a significant factor. The excellent value 160 7mm Fusions BC is .440 and that's good enough middle of the road for me. Same with the BTs'. A 150 Nosler BT 7mm is .493 which is way better than the Fusions. And the 150 Nosler can be sent off pretty quick which is a catch up on the lack of BC. I just dial in the correction which is only a tiny bit more because of the so called "low" bc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Russian 22.
Same with wind.
Its only if I was consistently shooting over 500 yards would I worry about the difference between .440 and .590/.600
Mind you, I'm only speaking from my own world of personal experience so that's a limiting factor in itself.
Here is the 150gn Ballistic Top from last week's stag. It went through the thick bone of the leg and ended up weighing 88 Grains. I think it held together pretty well.
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Good points here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
I used to load 150 BTs for a mate with milsurp sniper ammo. Just pulled the FMJs, neck sized and seated the BTs and they were superb, if a bit damaging, but I prefer a damaged carcass to a lost one.
High BCs are attractive, but generally not necessary, however, high BC bullets still work at closer ranges. My 180 ELD-Ms have mega BC, which gives me the option of long shots combined with decreased wind effect.
Ah. I was more talking about the ballistic tips rather than the fusion projectiles.Quote:
Originally Posted by 25 /08 IMP
Gold dot speer can be cheap and quite good.
Seems to suit my intended shooting perfectly!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
Has been a good thread.
So in conclusion, we all agreed to learn from our previous mistakes, not shoot goats with 22lr, and that target bullets are good for shooting trophy game animals and that strongly constructed bullets are only to be used on targets or not at all.
We learnt that a 270 wsm can kill a thar.
We learnt that Superdiver has a mate.
And that Gimp is a grumpy, blunt bugger when anything 260 related comes up.
Always learning
and that it took five pages of pure entertainment to reach this point,,dont stop now
We also learnt that you have "shot more tahr than everyone else put together". I guess this means you have been shooting them from a machine???Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribrit
I'd prefer it stopped now as I've just finished my last beer and I don't think there's any popcorn in the house. @Tahr I've been using federal blue box 130s in the .270win for years and they make things dead pretty well.Quote:
Originally Posted by 264 magic
You guess wrongQuote:
Originally Posted by Shearer
Haha. It isn't the first time I have guessed wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribrit
It does make me wonder though how you know how many tahr everyone else has shot?
I know someone that has shot them from a machine... and in that case they used a 223. Can we have an argument about shooting tahr with a 223 now....
Hope they were using GMX or TSX projectiles and not slinging recycled Christmas tinsel at them like @gimp and @Hunty1 and @Spitfire and @R93 and @superdiverQuote:
Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst
55gr soft points
Thanks for the replies. And the good banter. I haven't shot many tahr and think I will be on the right track to tackle a few more. Cheers fellas
Dont be so humble, make some outrageous statements.Quote:
Originally Posted by c-dog
This is the place to do it
