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Really just depends how far your going to be shooting. If most of your shooting is sub 300yards or so & your shooting them at 2800 odd fps, They arent going to kill that well compared to other projectiles out there unless you ensure you hit solid bone each timeQuote:
Originally Posted by KRB
Awesome cheers for all the info. I will have a play with some things and see what I come up with. Most of my shooting is over 300.
Ok so here goes. If your using a big heavy projectile at 170 yards or at 10 yards or at 500 yards.its NOT the velocity it hits at that makes it expand so much as what it hits. You said behind shoulder and it pencils through.so you did not meet enough resistance. Like shooting a rabbit with fmj. Nothing to make projectile do anything but keep going. You have a number of choices and this goes for ANY cartridge and calibre. To make it withstand high velocity it has to be hard.hard doesn't expand well unless hits something hard enough to make it deform. Slow it down and it's worse..smaller powder charge,longer distance. Flipped on head a soft expandy or even varmit projectile at high speed is prone to blowing up,ripping itself apart.its what the supposed to do.so you NEED to aim accordingly.wound won't be deep, so have to find soft or shallow target, the crease,tight in behind shoulder is a soft target except on boars. The neck is also a soft target except on rutting stags. Your 300wsm will smash that tahr into pile of jelly if you can take out his front wheels.eg smash shoulder bones.move your aim forwards.if you go too far forwards you smash neck=good ,slightly rearwards, is what you have now,dead but can still move. If you change to a softer projectile you will drop animal alright BUT will do shit loads of meat damage and will be risking it on up close high velocity shoulder shots...where your heavy will get away with it the lighter one may not.200 grns of tiny bits of lead is still 200grns.
That makes a lot of sense. I will just adjust my approach for the next one.
190gr Berger vld
Haven’t tried a lot of bullets but I don’t need to because this one works.
this is same thing Im saying about resistance and/or aiming point...... the softer projectile or the higher speed mean you need to adjust aim to a softer target/shallower vitals.....plenty of guys on here shoot deer with the .223...some even do so with varmit projectiles..BUT they are head/neck crease shooting them..... the fellas using heavier projectiles get away with normal chest shoulder shots...AND the fellas using monos,like barnes are needing to hit shoulder bonesQuote:
Originally Posted by 6.5 CRD
its the exact same thing but on other end of the calibre spectrum.
Has anyone had a go with the 190 grain Targex? I might use my 178 eldx in my 308
I use RL17 it’s awesome in my 300wsm with 168ELDM.
I’m onto my last 4 eldx, so I should probably start working a load up. Does anyone have a starting point for 190 vldh and rl19?
Go into Alliant powders website...they have a Reloaders Guide you can download. https://www.alliantpowder.com/resources/catalog.aspx
Thanks for that info, they have exactly what I needed. Does anyone know if they are max charges?
figured the max charge out on my ownQuote:
Originally Posted by KRB