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Won't be cutting the 270wsm barrel not a chance it's too good as it is and i can always refit it if things don't pan out the way i like.Quote:
Originally Posted by c-dog
Originally i used to shoot the 270wsm with a brake it was much nicer to shoot offhand without the extra weight hanging off the end.
As other have stated 2225 is too slow for WSM. My go to WSM is Hybrid 100V pushing 180 Berger EH at 3040fps, 24in bbl. imagine that in a 20in bbl this would be running something like 2850-2900 fps.Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyb
Have tried Federal 175gn TLR projectiles and speed was approx 2930 from memory but easier to find the ELD-X and since the factory 200gn load shot so well I just tried to duplicate.
OAL of loaded round is 71.82mm from base of case to tip. 64gns 4000-MR powder and Federal Large Rifle Match primers, Hornady Brass
Rifle is a Kimber Montana barrel cut to 20 inch with Vx3i 2.5-8x B&C Reticle, all very simple
My current 270wsm load are 73.70mm base to tip so easily enough room, I am using Norma brass and likely will be either Norma or Federal brass when the 300wsm time comes, already have fed mag primers (just standard not match) and likely will be using 2209 powder as it's probably going to be easiest to source.....Quote:
Originally Posted by mikee
dannyb i dont know much about you, you seem like a nice guy. But you need an intervention.
giving up reloading and selling rifles, then buying the lupo (eww) , then buying the 270 wsm back, now 300wsm rebarreling. Think you might need help. 300wsm is an awesome caliber. I wish my 30 nosler was a 300 wsm. Look up 'the pug 300wsm ' on rockslide forum that's a 20 inch 300wsm using heavies.
Good luck with your problem
I'm not sure what the problem is :yaeh am not durnk:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim Dicko
maybe you need to rebarrel it in 30/06 ? maybe its a ex kind of thing. 300wsm is pretty close in performance. go 7mm saum pre order every thing you need. in the mean time go 300wsm. When you change your mind again you will go back to 7mm.Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyb
I run a shortened 270wsm now. Tikka T3x 21” with a Z8i swaro on top. Kills everything and is my go to. However I only use factory load as I’m never at home and rather have shit loads of a known factory load sitting at home. This rifle shot the factory Hornady 145 precision hunter at 2810 fps. Ouch! No good.
So now I run the 140gr federal premium hybrid hunter. BC of .518 and does 3070fps into 0.27”. Sold! However I’m now down to my last two packets of ammo and none on the horizon.
So I’m building a 21” 300wsm with a fluted barrel, fluted bolt, carbon stock with a hardy magnum suppressor. Have seen this exact set up shoot the Norma 180gr with a BC of .615 into half an inch at 2900fps. Sold. More power than the 270wsm, ammo on tap and lighter.
Same Z8i 3.5-28 BT on top. Just need to make sure I don’t put a bloody 270wsm round in my 300! Thank god the federal ammo is silver.
What Norma ammo ?Quote:
Originally Posted by mcche171
@dannyb ive resized heaps of 270wsm to 300. I lost a few to split necks but that was mainly due to trying to it too fast or not enough lube.
I also run the superperformance ammunition, I tried reloading with 180s, 168s etc but for all the hassle and how little time I get in the hills it wasn’t worth it for Me. Factory ammo does 2705fps in mine. 3.4kg 20” with a stug and swaro.
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I load for a mates 20" Tikka WSM with 178 ELDM at mag length I tried RL26 and Hodgdon superprofrmance both worked well and both archived 2964 and 2961 fps
Hodgdon superprofrmance had a lower SD and I didn't want to waste my 26 so that's what I load for him.
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My guess would be bondstrike really good bc for a “light” 30 calQuote:
Originally Posted by dannyb
Yeah figured as much, I'm gonna give to 200eldx a burn, what can I say I'm a bc slut :yaeh am not durnk: hopefully a good dose of 2209 should see them right outta a 19" barrel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelton
Easy pretty sure iv some reading or Rcbs dies here when you get that far if you need themQuote:
Originally Posted by dannyb
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Did a mock up today .
First picture shows where my suppressor sits at current 22" barrel.
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Here is where it will sit with the barrel docked to 19"
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So should see me pretty much at factory length with the suppressor fitted and should make it much handier and less front heavy.
The heavy 200eldx at the speed I'll be lobbing them should hit like the hammer of Thor from zero to well past 500yards
Pm sentQuote:
Originally Posted by Kelton
Don't over think it mate. The 300 wsm will kill anything with any combo of pill-powder you choose
The key to the short magnums is that they all work well as a short barrel suppressed set up.
I personally believe 20 inches is the happy length for all of them as it gives good retained velocity and makes it a nice compact shooter to carry.
Something I have learnt over the years by spending too much $$$ is that it's not about the weight of your shooter and the speed it spits out a pill but more about riffe length and accuracy!
The reason I put more emphasis on rifle length is that it's all aboout "perceived weight" than actual weight. What I mean by that is that a long rifle of the same weight will feal heavier than the same weight short rifle due to leverage in your hand or while carrying on uoyr shoulder.
Accuracy should speak for itself. Any projectile placed in the right spot will do the job.
Don't over think it just shoot it.
More emphasis should be on how quickly you can wear out your boots!
2209 will be slow from a shorter barrel. 62gr~ re17 with a 178eldm/x will be the business but almost impossible powder to find
Yup gotta work with what's available :thumbsup: I would happily work up a load with superformance or re17 but it's unobtainable as are 178gn eldm/x pillsQuote:
Originally Posted by superdiver
2209 will push em just fine will still achieve everything I need it too....even if it does shoot fireballs out the end :on fire:
Mate had a 21" tikka and used 2209 for 4 loads. 168 bergers, 168amax, 165ssts and 165 gamekings. All lethal at wsm speeds out a wee way, even the hp gamekingsQuote:
Originally Posted by dannyb
I've just been down same path. 20" 300 WSM. Started with 168 LRABs @ 2950 with 2209 and now on 200gr ELDX @ 2740 with 61gr 2209. Tried super performance with the 200's but 2209 was just as good. Mate getting good results with N550 in his 19" 300 wsm with 165gr TTSX @ 3000. Good luck
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200gn eldx vs 145gn eldx
More bullet = more betterer eh Danny ��
more deaderer perhaps????
Amen to that :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Steelisreal
Have you actually shot a 300 wsm Danny ? I had one in 2005 for two years. It was a sako 75 and it was just a pig for recoil.
No I haven't but...I'm 6'8 and about 120kgs recoil doesn't really bother me too much, it will be suppressed as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan F
Most of my shooting is prone, granted it may be a little spicy if I have to take the odd standing shot
have owned a couple rem mags braked and un-braked suppressed and not also a 30-06 shooting 180n pills so I am aware of what heavier recoiling rifles are like.
rifle fits me well and has a good limbsaver on it.
Its a Sako, enough said....................Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan F
I had a mighty Poo Seventy Finnbear back in late eighties. I swear if you whatched me shoot it you would have seen me screw up my face and snatch at the trigger with a huge flinch.............................never go that with the M700 that replaced it.
300WSM is a pussy cat in a properly stocked gun :D
For reference mine is a Sako ,it will be in a Stug stock modelled off a finnlight stock, I find it very comfortable to shoot due to ol Stuggy making it a bit longer L.O.P to accommodate my Sasquatch like frame.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikee
When I get it all together I'll try take some slow mo footage of me shooting it, I'm sure I won't be flinching.
I also had a Finnbear in mighty 270win a few years ago and it was a pussycat to shoot due to being a heavy S.O.B
It was just awful. I shot a 7mmrum for years after that and it was beautiful to shoot in comparison. Hey if it doesn’t work you can always sell. :D
or try loading a lighter pill....but that would defeat what I am trying to achieve.....I am confident however it will not be an issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan F
I’m 6,4 105kg and the wsm is no issue for me you’ll be fine . I’m not recoil shy either most of it’s in your head I remember a range officer at the handloaders club in christchurch far bigger man than me at 21 commenting “far .270 you must have big shoulders” asked what he meant and he got booted by one as a young fellah and mentally couldn’t fire one again not even as a large adult . I had similar with a shotgun very young but got past it a few years later
[QUOTE=dannyb;1307200]or try loading a lighter pill....but that would defeat what I am trying to achieve.....I am confident however it will not be an issue.[/QUOTE
I actually think it was just the particular rifle I had. It was just a pig.
Good stock shape & design, good suppressor or brake, good technique = you’ll be fine.
I've been shooting 300wsm Tikka the last couple years, with 178eldx/RL17@ 2850 , has killed "everything" I've shot out to 600 very well (If I place the shot well).Inside 300 its ridiculous- knocked a large hind clean off her feet at 170m in late Jan. The tikka with std stock and the factory brake was def easier to shoot than with DPT suppressor. And then with carbon fibre stock, I noticed it got a touch livelier. I sorta got used to the boot that's there, and then shot my 308 recently, and realised what a pussycat the 308 is. I was gonna try sell my wsm Tikka, but it didn't sell, and I wasn't going to lower the price any more, then decided fuck it ill keep it, and used it for stalking sometimes- with the eldx or even the Lapua 185g Megas that I have. So glad it didn't sell.
What is the twist rate of your barrel ?Quote:
Originally Posted by mikee
1-10 I believeQuote:
Originally Posted by dannyb
