Welcome guest, is this your first visit? Create Account now to join.
  • Login:

Welcome to the NZ Hunting and Shooting Forums.

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed.

Terminator DPT


User Tag List

+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 14 of 14
Like Tree5Likes
  • 1 Post By grandpamac
  • 2 Post By 57jl
  • 1 Post By Kelton

Thread: 300wsm primer choice

  1. #1
    Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Location
    Wanganui
    Posts
    3,089

    300wsm primer choice

    Evening all,

    I have both 210 and 215 feds on hand 215 went swimmingly in my 7mmrm but in my saum and blaser mag I used 210 both to good effect any advise on which I should start with.im just trying to save some time and mucking around also a starting charge for 190gn weights and rl26. Lots of mixed reviews especially when googling the primer choice people are having good results with either . Berger has data for their 180s with rl26 so failing any first hand knowledge il drop down a gn and start from their. Cheers

  2. #2
    Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Location
    BOP
    Posts
    3,935
    I read that if you are using a powder charge of 60 grains + it is better to use a magnum primer. But in saying that the standard ones would be OK, I use standard primers in everything up to 30 06 then in the magnums the magnum primer.

  3. #3
    Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Location
    Wanganui
    Posts
    3,089
    Quote Originally Posted by mimms2 View Post
    The difference primers are going to make would be minimal. Might tighten up your ES, but that's well down the development path.
    210.
    Both data sheets for rl26, and your projectiles, should have load data to strt from.
    Cheers @mimms2 210 your preference? Iv always being incredibly lucky with reloading ragged hole first time until the saum which was easily overcome but the brief messing around revved me up . To be fair until the Saum I never even looked at ES not once and have had a few dependable 1km rifles now so maybe il just go with the flow

  4. #4
    Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Location
    Wanganui
    Posts
    3,089
    @Mooseman this is where Google and majority American based forums get confusing because people are doing great things with both and iv read 70gn and 60gn as the cut line between mag and large. My rm was +70 the rest sub 70 . Might have to stop skimping on time and go have a bomb up

  5. #5
    Jit
    Jit is offline
    Member Jit's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Location
    Wellington
    Posts
    864
    Quote Originally Posted by mimms2 View Post
    The difference primers are going to make would be minimal. Might tighten up your ES, but that's well down the development path.
    210.
    Both data sheets for rl26, and your projectiles, should have load data to strt from.
    Do you mean tighten ES by using the mag primer or the standard primer for a SAUM or Blaser Mag?
    I have both but use 215s for all mags. Never considered 210s.

  6. #6
    Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2019
    Location
    Okawa Hawkes Bay
    Posts
    2,844
    Greetings All,
    I used Winchester Large Rifle primers in my 7mm SAUM and could not reach the velocities in the data for AR2213SC and AR2217 in spite of the 26 inch barrel. I had used the Winchester primers thinking they were hotter and I did not have any magnum primers at the time. Factory 150 grain loads chronographed 3,060 to 3,080 v the claimed 3,110 fps. Some 215 GM primers were aquired but I have not done much testing since. Later I read some pressure tested data on different primers in the 7mm RM and the .300 WM with H4831. From memory the 210 and 215 primers were much the same but the Winchester WLR primers gave high pressures, very high with the WLRM primers without any real increase in velocity. The tests appeared in different issues of Handloader 5 to 10 years back.
    Standard primers may give good to excellent results in magnum cases (say over 60 grains capacity) on balmy testing days and fail miserably on a freezing winter day. Some have found this out the hard way.
    Regards Grandpamac.
    Jit likes this.

  7. #7
    Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    CNI
    Posts
    5,835
    Yes. I read a while ago that magnum primers were developed at request of military because of failures / erratic ignition with "normal" primers in very cold conditions.
    Summer grass
    Of stalwart warriors splendid dreams
    the aftermath.

    Matsuo Basho.

  8. #8
    57JL
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Location
    TOP END
    Posts
    844
    magnum primers where made to give consistent ignition to magnum cartridges why bother with anything else I use CCI magnum large rifle primers number 250,70 grains of win 780 powder (said tobe one of the harder powders to ignite) 178 Amax projectiles with GOOD reliable results and good ES in my 300WSM in all weather /temp conditions.
    Last edited by 57jl; 07-08-2020 at 12:39 PM.
    stevodog and mimms2 like this.

  9. #9
    Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Location
    Wanganui
    Posts
    3,089
    Quote Originally Posted by Jit View Post
    Do you mean tighten ES by using the mag primer or the standard primer for a SAUM or Blaser Mag?
    I have both but use 215s for all mags. Never considered 210s.
    I used 210s in both my saum and 7BM both amazing rifles only ever used the 215 in my rem mag
    mimms2 likes this.

  10. #10
    Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Location
    Wanganui
    Posts
    3,089
    Brilliant cheers lads

  11. #11
    Member
    Join Date
    May 2018
    Location
    Auckland
    Posts
    211
    federal magnum match primers

  12. #12
    Banned
    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Location
    auckland
    Posts
    2,453
    Quote Originally Posted by Rock View Post
    federal magnum match primers
    this is what I use in magnum and also in std cartridges that I use ball powder in

 

 

Similar Threads

  1. Small primer and large primer in sand rifle
    By Danger Mouse in forum Reloading and Ballistics
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 25-08-2019, 07:31 PM
  2. Small primer vs large primer brass in 308
    By Cowboy06 in forum Reloading and Ballistics
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 02-12-2017, 09:57 AM
  3. The choice is yours.........
    By 7mmsaum in forum Shooting
    Replies: 71
    Last Post: 24-11-2015, 12:05 PM
  4. Primer of choice for 300 WSM?
    By LJP in forum Reloading and Ballistics
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 29-05-2013, 05:22 PM
  5. magnum primer v large rifle primer
    By mucko in forum Reloading and Ballistics
    Replies: 19
    Last Post: 17-01-2013, 09:32 AM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Welcome to NZ Hunting and Shooting Forums! We see you're new here, or arn't logged in. Create an account, and Login for full access including our FREE BUY and SELL section Register NOW!!