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    303 Query

    I am ready to load 100 rounds of annealed used brass. FLS. My mate has given me a loaded commercial PPU round. The shoulder on it is very pronounced akin to the shoulder on a standard 243. There is no way I am going to come close to that shoulder if it is the reference point.[profile]. The commentary is that you neck size for this calibre. You are not going to get the same sizing to a commercial round by neck sizing so why the difference? Done thousands of bottle neck, learnt 44 mag but this is a different kettle of fish.

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    Each calibre cartridge case is differant to other calibres. The shoulder on a 243 bears no relationship to the shoulder on your 303Brit case
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    The .303 headspaces on the rim not the shoulder, the cases last longer if neck sized, reloading was not a thing back when the .303 was designed.
    don't go for max velocity reload for accuracy a 174 grain bullet at 2200fps will kill any animal you are likely to shoot you don't need 2400fps
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    ....but 2400fps is nicer, and it's not as if .303 cases are made of gold. You should be able to load to that velocity without abusing cases by using a slow powder, etc. But if you shoot cast lead bullets, then you will be best under 2000fps.

    What is more inportant than shoulder sizing is if the bolt will close on the fired case. If the shoulders are back enough to allow for this then don't worry.

    As said above, the .303 headspaces on the rim, not the shoulder. This allowed chambers with generous shoulder space and aided mass production and also imparted some tolerance to dirty chambers under field conditions. If you are of clean habits, then just neck size and let your cases stay expanded to take up the whole chamber.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordite View Post
    As said above, the .303 headspaces on the rim, not the shoulder. This allowed chambers with generous shoulder space and aided mass production and also imparted some tolerance to dirty chambers under field conditions. If you are of clean habits, then just neck size and let your cases stay expanded to take up the whole chamber.
    Check the case works in each rifle if you shoot more than one .303 rifle.
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    Greetings,
    There are differences between the chamber and cartridge shoulder angles on the .303. The chamber shoulder is much steeper. This may be due to the forming of cases with the cordite charge in place. Keeping pressures down a bit and neck sizing will deliver decent case life. This is just due to the .303 being a very old cartridge with looser tolerances and a rear locking action. If you want max loads you just have to accept short case life.
    GPM.
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    I have been reloading and shooting 303 for 20+ years.
    I'm up to 11+ reloads on my RP brass.

    - Use cases in one rifle only
    - Neck size with Lee Collet Dies
    - Full loads using AR2209 and 174gr
    - Occasionally anneal
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    In recent post on same subject there is great photo of two .303brit fired cases. It shows how vastly different chambers can be.this was wartime construction and as long as a std sized factory round chambered n fired it was near enough. Some chambers vastly larger than others.thus you keep cases for your rifle,for your rifle and if get others that have been fired elsewhere,check them in chamber before you start,check again after resizing,if they still won't fit.....ask someone cleverer than me how you can get them smaller lol.
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    One of the very helpful members here uses the 220gr woodleighs.
    Trajectory of a rainbow apparently but hits like the hammer of Thor.
    Rates them highly
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