Gday team just got hold of a rem model 7. .308 with a 16' tube. Wanting to do a load with the ttsx 130 or 150grn be a great help if Anyone could share some load data to me....
Cheers. Cam
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Gday team just got hold of a rem model 7. .308 with a 16' tube. Wanting to do a load with the ttsx 130 or 150grn be a great help if Anyone could share some load data to me....
Cheers. Cam
Ran 130ttsx out of 22inch 308 for quite a while and claimed many deer sub 350y with it.
In my experience the barnes need fairly high impact speeds to work well (light for cal going like f) and will kill at med/longer ranges but delayed kills are a reality as they just turn into a super apple corer at lower speeds and dont transfer any shock...hence i wouldnt recomend any heavier than 130gr from 308win...even 110g.
I have shot all manner of big red stags red/wap crosses from all angles and have still never recovered a 130gr barnes...extra weight is wasted...it is not a long rage pill so forget about bc. Velocity and energy/shock is how these work.
H335 and 130TTSX
3000fps in my 16" and .5-.7MOA
Can't remember how much powder and I'm not at home to look!
They kill really well.
Get 3000 out of my mod 7 16" with about 50 of 2206h lap brass fed 210 primers
Over max so you know the drill
Cheers mate much appreciated. This is just a roar bush rig, couple hundy max and for popping fallow and reds around here. Ill run the 130. bloody awesome thanks mateQuote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
bloody beautyQuote:
Originally Posted by Gibo
Cheers mate you are the 2nd fella whos quoted that loadQuote:
Originally Posted by robh500
@Pongo12 I have a similar set up but shooting 125 accubonds with 2206h instead. Shoots real tight out of my 17" dpt supressed t3. Haven't chronographed it yet or tested it on game but I know @akaroa1 rates the 125 accubonds and has bowled a few over with them.
I'm only running 47.5gr at the moment which isn't max and using CCIs I think.
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Ok thanks alot. Im going to get a few different pills so might have a dabble with them too. cheers.Quote:
Originally Posted by sambnz
Remington 600 Mohawk
18inch barrel
49.5 gr 2206H
Barnes 130gr TTSX
3025ft/s
3/4 MOA, better if I try.
Cheers, sounds like 2206h is the go for the little hog thenQuote:
Originally Posted by Robojaz
Seems to work well in mine bro. From 125 -168 grain slugs too. Havnt tried anything heavier, don't hunt Grizzlies :yaeh am not durnk:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pongo12
Why use a small expensive monolithic trendy bullet?
Speer hotcore 150 gn at $55 per box of 100
2206H 45-46gn for 2700-2800
Had some failures on animals with TTSX...no issues with lead cores
How far could you reach out with that projectile?Quote:
Originally Posted by Echo
Heres some super quick and extremely rough data pulled from Strelok.
150gr Hotcor .389bc doing 2700fps = 43inchs drop at 400 with 1064ft/lbf and 1788fps
125gr Accubond .366bc doing 3000fps = 34inchs drop at 400 with 1074ft/lbf and 1967fps
If you're dialling, the difference is neither here nor there. I could be/This could be completely wrong and inaccurate so someone please correct me.
I had multiple faliures with cup and core hence going to the barnes. Zero fails.Quote:
Originally Posted by Echo
How did the projectile fail?
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If you don't hit bone they pencil straight thru
Try Speer hot cores.... you will not be disappointed
No you just don't understand how they work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Echo
They open up right down to around 1800fps bone or no bone...in fact they open up very fast but what they don't do is fragment and that is why even light for caliber ones will almost always exit as they don't lose any weight,this is also why they need to be driven FAST to work well as otherwise they don't transfer shock. 3000fps is minimum for decent performance 3200-3300 is much better.
Cup and cores don't do well at those speeds.
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I've never had so many drop on the spot kills until I started using 100g tsx's at 3300 fps
Here's a couple of Brian's. Seem to work.
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I just wanna smack red stags over in the bush and scrub without dragging my 300wm through the shit. Something thats not going to let me down really. From 10 to 300m
I also have some 165 sierra gamekings to try. Ill smoke a few animals and see how each go
What cal? @TahrQuote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
6.5 x 06
I dropped a few big reds with the Barnes 130ttsx over 50gr of 2208 ( max compressed load ) @ around 3000fps from memory in a 20" 308win. They did a better job at close range than the 150gr sst that would blow to bits on the skin at times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pongo12
I've recovered one 130ttsx and it looks the same. They are good I'd agree and I'd say the 110 should be as good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
110gr Barnes in the 270 makes for exceptional killing if you do your bit. Saves the embarrassment that SOME 270 owners have to face.
I have been using the same projectile in my 16" bbl 308 in front of H335 for 2995fps. It has been a very effective killer on sika and reds out to 150 odd metres.Quote:
Originally Posted by sambnz
cheers you fellas. Pills and powder here tomorrow, so ill have a suss out over weekend and hopefully go for a look for a venison or two
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Originally Posted by Pongo12
It is the perfect bush range projectile IMO,I have even shot unintentionally threw a branch about as thick as my wrist which fortunately was only about 3m in front of the shoulder and still not recovered the projectile. It had obviously hit pre expanded as the bruising on the onside shoulder was more like you would expect of a amax/sst where as "normal" damage with them is you can eat right up to the hole...maybe a 6 inch diameter bruise at most.
Yep....I went to the 150sst from the 150 interloc in an effort to increase effective range and had fail to penetrate vitals broadside on shoulder shot 3 times in two weeks at around 30yards and a week after that front on chest(lung shot threw the hole the esophagus goes threw) shot on a young stag a 200y dropped him like a sack of spuds but no part of the projectile managed to penetrate the diaphragm...It may have been a bad batch or even just a bad box but I vowed never to use them again.Quote:
Originally Posted by tikka
I ran the 130 ttsx with for a start 52gr 2208 mag primer full mag length full Sako barrel for around 3250 fps.That is a stupid load don't try to copy it it is extremely difficult to get that much 2208 in a 308 case. Went down to 51.6gr which is also an absolute pain in the arse to get in.....use 2206h or H335 instead.
I've also got a few 165 sst to play with but I have heard people getting mixed results using them. Many of yo had problems with them?
I had no issue when shooting beyond 200m with the 150sst it killed well, I mainly used the 130ttsx for point blank shooting then swap to the 150 sst for long range shots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pongo12
There are an article in one of the hunting comics where they simulated shooting through thick bush by shooting different projectiles through bunches of dowles. SST was one of the worse performing and TTSX was one of the best.
What was the best best?Quote:
Originally Posted by MassiveAttack
That'd be interesting to read if you could find it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MassiveAttack
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Not sure if i still have the comic but will have a look when i get home. Interlocks and TTSX were first equal.
I think I might have read one of them in the Durvil hut.....MEHQuote:
Originally Posted by MassiveAttack
Basically if your projectile glances a branch very close to you and some distance from the target your stuffed, its simple physics and angle of deflection,if the obstruction is very close to the target any deflection will be minimal and it is down to projectile construction/impact velocity what happens next.
Iraqveteran8888 has a tube vid where he shoots different cals thru brush. Really interesting. There's a link to it in the forum somewhere but forget what thread
I decided to run sierra 150 game kings for now. got them going well at 2820fps with 2206h. cheers all for the input and help.
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