Thread: 44-40 Reloading/Shooting

Anyone reloading ? or shooting 44-40 WCF?

Picked up a Rossi Puma 20" unexpectedly lol.

Another fun calibre to get into. I'm not into CAS so will be playing with Bush distance hunting loads.

If someone has a Rossi Puma can you confirm they used the .429 bore (44Mag) rather than the original. 427 ? Would simplify life if I use the same slug as for the 44Mag.

Yep, I’ve got a Rossi 92 as well
You can you 44 mag projectiles
I use the Hornady 200gr XTP, and AR2205

Excellent, thks!

.

if you have any issues got a hold of Carlson Highway ...he still hangs out at the other pub...he seems to know a trick or three to get these working right.

So things progress...

Got the use of a set of Lyman Dies with a Redding Pro Crimp Die and a starter pack of half a hundred of Rob Walkers 215gn Cup point cast proj plain base, at .430 dia.. And 100 Starline brass. And a jug of AR2207 surprise surprise. Printed off a bunch of LOADDATA pages basically confirming what was already offered above.

The issue of the bullet needing to be supported, originally by the BP charge, to stop it retreating into the brass occupied my mind a bit. I have other viable powders but none of them providing the bulk fill of AR2207. In making the crimp with the Redding Die, I seated the bullet so the front edge of the case was a gnats arse hair behind the front edge of the crimp groove on the bullet. Then crimped the case so the brass barely catches my thumb nail dragging it from bullet ogive across the brass mouth edge. Figuring that the case mouth itself should resist the bullet receding into the case under recoil pressure into the magazine tube of my Rossi Puma. I'm not even sure if the AR2207, at my first load of 25gn, is actually supporting the projectile. I'm making test loads at 25, 25.5, 26, and 26.5gn.

If the crimp catching the cannelure front edge is sufficient to hold the bullet, then non-bulk powders using around the 6-9 grains for a charge should not be an issue re bullet telescoping. Right? Wrong? Hopefully?

interesting..you are the first and ONLY person Ive ever seen complain about Roberts lube,or projectiles....

To Arthur, thks for the further info/comments. Guess I'll stick to the AR2207 for the mo. Although crimping the case behind the bullet is an interesting idea. Surely some smart kiwi fella could make such a die ��
As to black powder, loved shooting a mates musket a couple of times. Lungs couldn't handle the smoke. Lube smoke is bad enough. And then the residue from that stuff is terribly corrosive. Happy to avoid.

Originally Posted by Jhon

To Arthur, thks for the further info/comments. Guess I'll stick to the AR2207 for the mo. Although crimping the case behind the bullet is an interesting idea.
As to black powder, loved shooting a mates musket a couple of times. Lungs couldn't handle the smoke. Lube smoke is bad enough. And then the residue from that stuff is terribly corrosive. Happy to avoid.

Simple roller using small cut off saw blade with teeth dulled off.

Originally Posted by Tedz50

Attachment 178745 Simple roller using small cut off saw blade with teeth dulled off.

For case crimp?

Originally Posted by Jhon

For case crimp?

You can crimp the case at base of bullet or half way up bullet.Early british case crimped body of case not at neck.
Early snider rounds had 3 crimps in case half way up bullet.Kynoch rounds for lever actions had crimp in case at base of bullet.

Ok, anyone got a tub or part tub of AR2205 in the Sth Island that I can buy and have shipped to Arthur to exchange for some of his cast bullets? Or anyone driving from the North willing to carry it?

Here's a shout out for Robbie & Amanda at Gunworks. Found a Lee 44-40 FCD on their website about halfway thru yesterday, on my doorstep by 9.30am this morning. Price, $30 plus $7.50 courier. Awesome and not the first good experience I've had from them. Just saying...

yes Gunworks is great...however Robbie passed away,what is it??? two??? years ago now.

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

yes Gunworks is great...however Robbie passed away,what is it??? two??? years ago now.

Ahhh...was not aware of that, email comes from "Robbie & Amanda..." for some reason. Thks for the nod.