Thread: 500+gr projectiles for 45-70 subsonic

I'm after some heavy projectiles for a 45-75 iv just committed to buying
Anyone been down this road and have any experience?
Seems like a big jump from my 308 running 200gr

45-70 and casting your own go together like Lasagne and Garfield. 458s are great for paper patching too, you can patch 45LCs without having to use custom made molds or sizers.

@Maca49 know about this big arsed stuff.

Originally Posted by Bill999

I'm after some heavy projectiles for a 45-75 iv just committed to buying
Anyone been down this road and have any experience?
Seems like a big jump from my 308 running 200gr

Shoot 500grain pure lead projectiles with 63 grains FFG black powder, you will find a good smokeless load some where, if you FPS get up you'll need harder lead and gas checks to stop erosion of the projectile base, my projectiles are protected with cardboard wads, but using BP

Thankfully it comes with a cast for one size of projectile but I'm guessing it will be around 325gr
Iv been looking at trailboss loads to try and the seller has some data to pass on

I'm guessing paper patching is a wad wrapped around the projectile so it can be of a smaller size and still seal?
Like on a musket?

Paper patching is using onion paper carefully wrapped around the projectile, to the correct circumference to ensure even wrap and then knot by twisting at the base of the projectile, the paper is wetted first and it tightens as it drys, so it doesn't come off. Onion paper can be substituted with dress makers pattern paper, buy them from an op shop. Rember using BP no air gaps in the shell! Using smokeless use a filler to hold the powder on the primer.

That's bloody interesting
You learn something new every day

Worth looking at AR2206H for a smokeless load, you will only get a subsonic load out of Trailboss with that weight.

I'm hoping go dual purpose eventually but mainly subsonic planned for this rig

Anyone got a good lead on 500+ gr projectiles?

Try hays and associates Carterton

Hi Bill999, I have a mould drops bullets at 424 grains .459" diameter I don't think the critters will notice the difference.
Robert.

Looks like hays and assosiates only go up to 230 sadly

Lead Projectiles
429 x 200 grain (44/40) $30 per 100 Buy me
454 x 250 grain (45LC) $30 per 100 Buy me
311 x 93 grain (32/20) $60 per 100 Buy me
457 x 420 grain (45/70) $30 per 100 Buy me
451 x 230 grain (45ACP or 45LC) $30 per 100 Buy me
451 x 195 grain (45ACP) $30 per 100 Buy me

Originally Posted by Bill999

Looks like hays and assosiates only go up to 230 sadly

45ACP and 45LC diameter are around .452, for the 45-70 you'll need somthing close to .458 etc unless you want to paper patch them up.



the bottom left is a patched 230 45 ACP, the one behind it is a .458 around the 460 grain mark.

The .457x420 they list could be worth considering.

Originally Posted by Bill999

Anyone got a good lead on 500+ gr projectiles?

Ive got a few tucked away! Buy yourself a Lee mould and cast your own out of pure lead for black powder