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Tryed a few of the old 123 amax in the creedmoor today the discontinued one
Just had a few lying arround and I wanted to get a fireing on some new brass
But they shot well very well infact a 3 shot group of 0.25” and 3 other 3 shot groups 0.3” or just over
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Wondering how people have gone with the 123eldm and sst as I think its worth more of a play
How does the eldm preform for hunting anyone got any Experience with them on game
Cheers
In 6.5mm I’d definitely try to get the 140gr+ ELD-X and -M working. Take a look at the ballistics is what I’d do, use the Hornady 4DOF calculator on their website, there’s quite a difference between the 123gr and say 143gr ELD-X.
The 123gr weight class is ok but the 140gr+ weight class will be better for the 300m+ stuff.
I have plenty of 123 Amaxes here if you are after some :)Quote:
Originally Posted by rambo-6mmrem
Yep that’s the plan i Realise the140+ bullets are far better ballistics but may aswell have a bit more of a play with the 123-130 aswellQuote:
Originally Posted by Flyblown
Cheers for the offer greg but I think getting really stuck into a discontinued bullet is not a good idea as the supply’s will dry upQuote:
Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg
Then you are stuck
Keen to have a quick play with 123eldm and 130 edlm if you happen to have 15-20 of each lying about
Pretty sure the 123gr SST were designed for use in the Grendel, proper expansion at modest velocity. The Amax & ELDM could be a bit fragile at close range higher velocities, especially on big bodied animals.
Exactly my worries mate I have a Grendel aswell and yep from my research they are designed as Grendel bulletsQuote:
Originally Posted by Mathias
Which means 2600-2700mv not just over 3k (my load would be slower)
In my TCU the 123ELD-Ms are about on par with Amax and accuracy with the SSTs are slightly less but only very slightly.
Over 700-800m Laupua 123gn's are much better, the Hornadys seem for some reason to become erratic and un-predictable mind you the TCU is not driving them very fast to begin with.
Ive just tried some 120 match kings i think thats what they are as i was using the 123amax as well but as usual hornady discontinues it so i stay away from hornady now and stick with sierra the 120 mk shoots real good
You still want those eldx? I have 80x 140gr eldm potentially up for sale shortly as well
The 123gr ELD-M at Grendel speeds performs really well. Dropped this spiker at 200m on Friday and here's the exit.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...3b7f3fc338.jpg
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The 123 Amax shoot sub 1/2 in mine and is excellent on Wallaby's, as Mathias has said though I'd be hesitant to shoot at a bigger bodied animal with that bullet.
That’s pretty mint performanceQuote:
Originally Posted by EK9132
Nice shot to by the way
I see Hornady have both a 120gr and a 123gr ELD-M now. Is that right ?
Does anyone know what the difference is ?
I wasn't very impressed with the knockdown power of the factory 123gr SST from my 16" Grendel and 120gr Nosler baliistic tip also doesn't open up very well. I think it has enough ft.lb but velocity is only 1800fps at 200 yd so I need a bullet that fragments well at that speed.
Neck shots that hit bone make any bullet look good. Its those "between the ribs" shots on small goats where I've been embarrassed. Good shot on that spiker at 200m by the way.
Factory stuff is pretty slow I only shot one packet of 123 amax factory when i 1st got the howa mini
I recall they were only doing arround 2600 from a 24
From all forum reports on 6.5grendel.com say 2750 is doable from a 20inch in from a 24 that would probably give arround 2800ish
I only shoot 95-100gn in my Grendel so don’t have to much info on it
If you are mostly using on goats, perhaps give the 100gr Sierra HP ago. They list it suitable for medium game at handgun velocities and a capable varmint bullet in the 264 Win Mag, so I'd say going by that info it could be just right for 6.5G velocities. https://www.sierrabullets.com/store/...65mm-100-gr-HPQuote:
Originally Posted by Bagheera
I run this in my GrendelQuote:
Originally Posted by Mathias
32.3gn cfe223
Cci br4
Lapua case
Oal 2.200”
Shoots under 1/2 inch alday long in my howa
I have tried all three in my wifes 16" Howa Grendel Mini Action on goats to 300m. I also shot 30-40 roos with them and the Grendel SST / AMax were the best projectile / velocity combination for dead right threr performance.
Exits were consistently around the 20-30mm diameter.
In the 100 odd animals I shot including a Fallow spiker, there was NO difference in performance across the three. All are designed for Grendel performance and the match type pills did not suffer blow up at close range (15m) just passed through and opened like the SST do.
If I was chasing reds in the roar i would use the 123 GR SST or the 120 GR GMX.
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Shot a deer up the ass with 129 grain sst in 6.5 from 100 meters standing, scootched on its ass about 5 meters then rolled over and died. Although good killing power it groups about 3 moa in a howa 1500, about to try some eldx as well
Here’s a billy shot with a Grendel at 295yds. 123gr ELDM Hornady Black ammo. Howa mini with a 20 inch barrel. Shoulder shot and the bullet still exited.
Shot from ridge with arrow above:
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Internal damage:
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Bullet exit:
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This was the exit on a goat quarting too at 415m with the 123gn sst. Impact velocity was about 1800fps.
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Shot a bunch of goats. Bang flop. Consistent exit wounds as mentioned above
