6.5 143 ELD-X, are they THE 6.5 hunting bullet?

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13-02-2023, 08:24 AM
7mmsaum

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Originally Posted by 25/08 IMP

Plenty of ELDX around my local has them on the shelf

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Same here, everyone’s upgrading to 7 mm :)
13-02-2023, 08:29 AM
6.5 CRD

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Originally Posted by zeropak

Ahaah got it the Strelok still had the default BC in the stats. I fixed that and thing started to look more like you quote above. Yeah I was pretty disappointed in the velocity of the Pro Hunter loads in the Tikka. However with Handloads I now agree that the ELDX projectiles look like the way to go. Lets hope components get as little easier to get.

I wouldnt write off the factory precision hunter ammo in your gun even with it being a bit slow, if it is accurate. I seem to read mixed reviews from people about the ELDX but for myself, As per earlier post, ive shot plenty of deer with them at 2600fps out to 400m, one being a decent size red stag at just over 400m (broadside shot into the shoulder) and it dropped on the spot, projectile did a great job. Even at 2600fps your still somewhere around 1000ftlbs/1800fps at just over 600 yards.
13-02-2023, 09:06 AM
16Tontovarish

love my eldx, its like a laser from the bergara.

putting sub 1moa groups in a dinner plate at 500m
13-02-2023, 04:05 PM
zeropak

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Originally Posted by 25/08 IMP

Plenty of ELDX around my local has them on the shelf

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Would that be H&F in New Plymouth??
13-02-2023, 04:07 PM
25/08 IMP

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Originally Posted by zeropak

Would that be H&F in New Plymouth??

Hell no.
Magnum sports in Stratford I picked up my back order on Friday and he still had some on the shelf then.

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13-02-2023, 07:25 PM
Nugget connaisseur

Heaps. He had more than 10boxes on Saturday
23-02-2023, 08:23 PM
JemO

I love the 143 round
23-02-2023, 11:16 PM
Rated M for Magnum

Thanks for all the feedback and shared experience team, I've got some loaded for a ladder test to see how far I can push them, not sure when I'll get out and send them with the wonderful weather we've got coming up:XD:
12-03-2023, 02:27 PM
DBD

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A cracker day to get out and verify some load data.
The 10" mild steel gong (8mm plate) was set at 550yrds, @tikka6.5 using 6.5 Creedmoor with 142LRAB and myself with 143eldx in PRC.
The impact velocity for the 142LRAB @2000fps and the 143eldx @2190fps. The 142LRAB made some impressive holes but did not penetrate like the 143eldx. What was strange is how the jacket of the 143eldx peeled off as it penetrated.
I guess a animal will not stand a chance with either of these fine projectiles with good shot placement.
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12-03-2023, 07:34 PM
Tikka7mm08

Shot a big red hind last night. Was just over 400y and was a bit rushed so shot was high and back. Hind made it 30y downhill. First shot at an animal with the 6.5PRC and 143gn ELDX and very happy.
14-03-2023, 07:14 PM
Rated M for Magnum

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Great feedback team. Well they shoot pretty well in my rifle so I think I'll stick with them.

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Knocking on 2900 with almost 100 rounds down the tube so should speed up a little yet.
14-03-2023, 07:57 PM
6.5 CRD

Nice! 2217 work out better than 2225 in the end?
14-03-2023, 07:59 PM
stagstalker

I use berger classic hunters in my 260 but I would suggest you use the eldx and leave the bergers for me :thumbsup:
14-03-2023, 08:41 PM
Tahr

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Originally Posted by stagstalker

I use berger classic hunters in my 260 but I would suggest you use the eldx and leave the bergers for me :thumbsup:

Are you getting exits? In my 270wsm I found they weren't leaving a blood trail.
14-03-2023, 09:15 PM
Rated M for Magnum

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Originally Posted by 6.5 CRD

Nice! 2217 work out better than 2225 in the end?

I'm having a self imposed component restriction, I'll start playing with the 2225 when I'm nearly out of the 2217. Unless someone has some 2217 they would swap for 2225? :D
14-03-2023, 09:58 PM
tikka6.5

Was a great day out .That one shot you can see with the 130g sierra didn't make much of a dent. Mine due it was going pretty slow.
14-03-2023, 10:10 PM
Kelton

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Originally Posted by Rated M for Magnum

I'm having a self imposed component restriction, I'll start playing with the 2225 when I'm nearly out of the 2217. Unless someone has some 2217 they would swap for 2225? :D

Possibly I need to test both aswell and then the other will be out the door
15-03-2023, 06:45 AM
stagstalker

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Originally Posted by Tahr

Are you getting exits? In my 270wsm I found they weren't leaving a blood trail.

Not always but they often do aswell. I don’t find myself looking too hard as the deer never go far.
15-03-2023, 08:34 AM
25/08 IMP

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Originally Posted by Tahr

Are you getting exits? In my 270wsm I found they weren't leaving a blood trail.

I gave them a try in my .260 a few years back shot 4 reds a couple just walked away as if not hit until someone else shot them.
The last 2 were hit well in the lungs and ran off no blood and only ever found 1 about 50 m away.
ELDX drop them on the spot 90% of the time.

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16-03-2023, 07:23 PM
Kelton

Vld is a different kettle of fish hunting not target unlike its honardy counterpart the vld target is a shocking pill on animals not to be used
16-03-2023, 07:47 PM
stagstalker

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Originally Posted by Kelton

Vld is a different kettle of fish hunting not target unlike its honardy counterpart the vld target is a shocking pill on animals not to be used

The 168 VLD hunting in my saum has been awesome. Myself and two mates all run the 135 classic hunters in two 260s and one creedmoor that have taken a lot of deer between them now, all to great effect. Deadly. Tbh I have never really experienced a legitimately poor projectile myself. From eldx to eldm to sst to berger to cupncore soft point etc they all just killed pretty good. Just lead down range.

I have just done a new load for me mates rem mag though as he hated the 160 TMK, found them to pencil bad if nothing solid was hit and lost a few animals. Now got him on 162 eldm and loving them.

Probably my only marginal experience with a pill was the 162 eldx in my rem mag on a rear shoulder shot where the animal took a long time to expire. But that was also my only marginal experience out of many good kills and I also don’t like rear shoulder shots for that reason anyway so I didn’t really put much weight on the experience.
17-03-2023, 06:40 PM
outdoorlad

I found the 135 Berger classics to be vicious killers, although I never shot an animal under 200yds with them.
17-03-2023, 08:52 PM
25/08 IMP

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Originally Posted by stagstalker

The 168 VLD hunting in my saum has been awesome. Myself and two mates all run the 135 classic hunters in two 260s and one creedmoor that have taken a lot of deer between them now, all to great effect. Deadly. Tbh I have never really experienced a legitimately poor projectile myself. From eldx to eldm to sst to berger to cupncore soft point etc they all just killed pretty good. Just lead down range.

I have just done a new load for me mates rem mag though as he hated the 160 TMK, found them to pencil bad if nothing solid was hit and lost a few animals. Now got him on 162 eldm and loving them.

Probably my only marginal experience with a pill was the 162 eldx in my rem mag on a rear shoulder shot where the animal took a long time to expire. But that was also my only marginal experience out of many good kills and I also don’t like rear shoulder shots for that reason anyway so I didn’t really put much weight on the experience.

I think mine were 130grn but not sure what one VDL hunting or target.

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17-03-2023, 09:58 PM
stagstalker

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Originally Posted by 25/08 IMP

I think mine were 130grn but not sure what one VDL hunting or target.

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I have definitely heard of some bad berger experiences. There seems to be some select caliber and weight combos that maybe don’t perform as well for whatever reason. @mawzer308 for example had some bad experiences with them in 270.
18-03-2023, 06:56 AM
Kelton

You had to keep an eye on the meplat on the old Berger's (orange box) that was the cause of a lot of fails seem to have fixed that issue with the later batchs
22-03-2023, 06:38 AM
Rated M for Magnum

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Originally Posted by 6x47

Believe me, it doesn't matter what fancy bore cleaner you use, if it's just using patches, there's no guarantee the bore will end up fully clean even when the patch comes out spotless. This is especially so with hard carbon rings that form in the throat. Even prolonged use of a new bronze brush will not shift them. You often have to resort to Autosol or JBs to get it out.

There is only one way to see if your cleaning has worked and that's a borescope. These days, there is no excuse for not getting one as Teslongs are pretty cheap. They can actually save you money as in not wasting components trying to find a load when the real cause is fouling.

I ended up getting a cheap bore scope and yep, I've got a carbon build up just in front of the chamber. I'll have to get some autosol and find out how to do an abrasive clean.
22-03-2023, 07:12 AM
25/08 IMP

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Originally Posted by Rated M for Magnum

I ended up getting a cheap bore scope and yep, I've got a carbon build up just in front of the chamber. I'll have to get some autosol and find out how to do an abrasive clean.

That will cause a big pressure spike.

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22-03-2023, 02:29 PM
Rated M for Magnum

Got some autosol and some instructions, I'll get stuck into it tonight :thumbsup:
22-03-2023, 04:07 PM
imaca

Just tried some 120 gr ELD-Xs in my 6.5x55. Was doing a load test and had 9 different loads, 3 rounds each.
The second load of 49gr of N560 pretty much keyholed the 3 rounds. And yeah I know, 5 round groups yada yada yada but still.

Sigh... now I'm gonna have to buy the 143s and try them. Anyone got any LRPs? :-)
22-03-2023, 09:35 PM
Rated M for Magnum

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