Thread: 6.5 PRC

So what I am gleaning is that I might as well stay with my 270 with 140's at 3100 vs a PRC 140's at 3000 with 22 inch barrels. For all the fuss a PRC is only as good as the geriatric 270 and probably wont kill quite as well, being a slightly smaller diameter.

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

So what I am gleaning is that I might as well stay with my 270 with 140's at 3100 vs a PRC 140's at 3000 with 22 inch barrels. For all the fuss a PRC is only as good as the geriatric 270 and probably wont kill quite as well, being a slightly smaller diameter.

Slightly snaller diameter yes
Pound for pound much better bc availible in 6.5 would kill very well id have thought had an old carl gustuv 6.5x55 that was a great hitter with factory 139 rounds

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

So what I am gleaning is that I might as well stay with my 270 with 140's at 3100 vs a PRC 140's at 3000 with 22 inch barrels. For all the fuss a PRC is only as good as the geriatric 270 and probably wont kill quite as well, being a slightly smaller diameter.

Well apples with oranges if you compare a 153 Atip or 156 EH at 2900+ out of 6.5 PRC

Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg

Well apples with oranges if you compare a 153 Atip or 156 EH at 2900+ out of 6.5 PRC

Probably kill the deer just as dead with either the apple or the orange.

Originally Posted by Shearer

Probably kill the deer just as dead with either the apple or the orange.

Depends how far away it is, how hard the wind is blowing & how hard you throw it

Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg

Depends how far away it is, how hard the wind is blowing & how hard you throw it

True. Personally I'm not a very good thrower so would find either fruit equally as deadly at the distances I am confident at.

Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg

Well apples with oranges if you compare a 153 Atip or 156 EH at 2900+ out of 6.5 PRC

What about the 150gr lrabs out of the 270 at 3000 + ?

I am sure that out past 500 the 6.5 would be flatter and retain more HP, but if someone wants to ethically shoot past 400 meters I think it is time for them to buy something bigger

The GAP Saum looks to be a noticeable step up going on what's written in this thread

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

What about the 150gr lrabs out of the 270 at 3000 + ?

I am sure that out past 500 the 6.5 would be flatter and retain more HP, but if someone wants to ethically shoot past 400 meters I think it is time for them to buy something bigger

The GAP Saum looks to be a noticeable step up going on what's written in this thread

Well thats more apples for apples the 6.5 vld holds the same bc as the 150 accubond but at 130gns and i imagen if speeds the name of the game the prc would easily push 130s 3000+


If you cant tell I like BC

Either or dead deer .

Bigs not always better iv seen a few stags run with 162 7mm holes iv seen a few with 212 30cal holes both with mv of over 3000

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

What about the 150gr lrabs out of the 270 at 3000 + ?

Yep the .270 150 LRAB BC at 0.569 VS .264 153 A-Tip at 0.727 not even close Mate, Litzs BCs BTW

Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg

Yep the .270 150 LRAB BC at 0.569 VS .264 153 A-Tip at 0.727 not even close Mate, Litzs BCs BTW

The A-Tip is a target bullet though isn't it ?? high BC and all the rest of the flash retained energy numbers after it's name won't make it work as well as the archaic 270 on game right ?

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

The A-Tip is a target bullet though isn't it ?? high BC and all the rest of the flash retained energy numbers after it's name won't make it work as well as the archaic 270 on game right ?

Yea it is a target bullet.

The 130gn vld hunting is well its in the title a hunting bullet 0.562 only 7 down on the 150 and 20gns lighter . The 156 EOL from berger would be the closet comparison for weight and boasts a good 110 more bc 0.679 the same projectile in .270 but in 170gn sees 0.662 point being the 6.5s have their advantages power to weight . Im unsure how quick the .270 would get the 170s going but im hoping to get 2950-3000 from the 156 i think its achievable will do a report when the time comes

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

The A-Tip is a target bullet though isn't it ?? high BC and all the rest of the flash retained energy numbers after it's name won't make it work as well as the archaic 270 on game right ?

Google the A-Tip & Hunting

Not all target bullets make bad hunting bullets

The Amax is a Target bullet too, no one ever used them here for hunting Aye ?????

The Scenar is a target bullet & I would never recommend it for hunting, same goes for the SMK especially the newer pointed ones

Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg

The Amax is a Target bullet too, no one ever used them here for hunting Aye ?????

In the older Hornady reloading manuals, all A-Max bullets greater than .264” are listed as a target, varmint and “thin skinned” medium game bullet. The .264” versions are regarded as target and varmint bullets only, though I doubt a fallow deer is going to run away after being shot with a 6.5mm 120gr A-Max at 3,000fps. Hornady describes the .30 cal A-Max as “excellent for hunting thin skinned game”.

Hornady changed their minds around the 9th or 10th edition, just before they introduced the ELD-X / ELD-M, when they sought to separate the two applications. Which didn’t necessarily work... I haven’t got a new manual here and can’t remember exactly what they say about the ELD-M application, but I don’t think it mentions hunting.

It’s always interested me that the 175gr Sierra MatchKing was (is?) used in US Milspec sniper ammunition for .308” (M118LR). Supposedly the tiny opening in the tip didn’t qualify as a hollow point and as such was “non expanding”. Numerous field reports then described enemy targets having dirty great big exit holes.

I once had the misfortune to realise I had packed the wrong ammo box on a pig hunting trip in NT. Opened it up, shit I’ve got the old SMKs. Didn’t make the blindest bit of difference... very dead pigs.

That said I don’t much like the Tipped MatchKings for hunting. Those that I’ve seen used on smaller deer have been far too messy at closer ranges. Probably good as long range bullets.

Sorry for the off-topic diversion.

Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg

Google the A-Tip & Hunting

Not all target bullets make bad hunting bullets

The Amax is a Target bullet too, no one ever used them here for hunting Aye ?????

The Scenar is a target bullet & I would never recommend it for hunting, same goes for the SMK especially the newer pointed ones

Why not just run the comparison with the same bullet ? At 3000 fps + bonded type bullets are better for covering shots at all ranges than target bullets. I looked up the retained velocity and trajectory numbers for the Saum with bullets leaving home at 3200 + and was very impressed.

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

The A-Tip is a target bullet though isn't it ?? high BC and all the rest of the flash retained energy numbers after it's name won't make it work as well as the archaic 270 on game right ?

My main hunting bullet is a target bullet(eldm). Have shot a few animals with it and it has smashed all of them from yearings to big red spikers and fallow bucks. Bc of 0.640 as well from hornadys website