Thread: 6.5 PRC Load Development Begins

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

Impressive. Enough grunt to flatten a stag out to 675 !

You are trolling

Its just getting warmed up at 675.

Originally Posted by Tahr

You are trolling

Its just getting warmed up at 675.

Who are you, Townsend Whelan shooting Pennsylvania Whitetail's??

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

Who are you, Townsend Whelan shooting Pennsylvania Whitetail's??

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Townsend_Whelen

Originally Posted by Tahr

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Townsend_Whelen

It was Whelen who came up with the 'minimum' 1000 fp energy to 'cleanly' kill a deer, but what modern proponents forget is projectile momentum - Whelan was using the usual heavy bullets of the day at the time he made that statement, so 1000 fp energy plus a fair dolop of momentum / inertia. Proponents also forget that Whelan was writing about small Whitetail deer and not our Reds.
1500 fp energy and 2000fps or more for a Red Stag is a better minimum according to Trophy Park guides here.

Whelan was only an average shot to boot. Pope was somewhat better : In his lifetime Pope has done some nearly incredible shooting. Always an offhand shot, his maxim remains to this day “Stand on your hind legs and shoot like a man!” He still has the targets of one memorable match fired April 9, 1897 on the Lake Lookout Range, Springfield, Massachusetts. They are the old “Standard American”–the black 11 inches in diameter and including the 7-ring. The 3.36-inch ten ring is again divided into 10, 11 and 12 values, for scoring center shots, much as our present X or V count. Harry that day had tramped knee-deep through four miles of unbroken snow to get to the range. The match was to consist of one hundred shots offhand at two hundred yards. Harry was shooting a 13 pound rifle, barrel of his own make and a Stevens telescope.

The first string of fifty shots have him a score of 454, which was a chance at the record. The second fifty were about to equal the first and on his ninth string of ten Harry scored 89. He sat down to rest. Snow had turned to sleet, the flags were frozen and did not correctly indicate wind, and darkness was approaching.

Harry started to fire the last string. There was nothing now to tell him what the wind was doing, and he could only guess. He called his first shot–a low ten. It was flagged back. A seven! The wind he could not judge had thrown him out. Four more shots gave him seven–ten–nine–ten–nine for the five-shot string. The record seemed lost, unless he could score 95 on this last 10-shot string, and already he was five down. Five consecutive tens—it could not be done! But what followed became shooting history. Pope loaded and fired his ninety-sixth shot. It was a nipper twelve. The scorer inserted a plug in the hole. The ninety-seventh drove the plug out. The ninety-eighth again drove out the plug and the hundredth came one-quarter inch from the last, scored ten. The two strings were totaled: 917. A new record had been made. And it still stands unequaled!

During the summer of 1905 or 1906 Harry made an unusual record at the same Springfield range by shooting, from day to day, 696 straight bulls, alternating between the 11-inch Standard American and the 12-inch German Ring target. The whole run extended over several weeks. He would adjust the sights on the new day by the apparent wind and getting a bull, continue until exactly sighted, then start his score. All sighting shots counted in the run of 696 bulls, though not necessarily in the score he was that day shooting.