@dannyb that is privileged information lol
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@dannyb that is privileged information lol
Any progress updates ? I’m new to the 6.5prc and have also gone down the rabbit hole with reloading. Got out on Sunday to confirm trajectory and dial up is on track and really pleased so far.
I've started to run low on Re26 and have gotten frustrated with erratic behaviour from it at times anyway, so just switched to AR2225...
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Both the last groups come in at 0.290" and 59.2gr was a mild 2980 with good ES/SD.
Interesting what was your 26 speed and charge? I was under the impression it’d be no good because iv being told no good in saum good to see some real world
Right around the Hornady "max" for similar speed.
@Pommy they are some great groups there.
I'm using <70gr of 2217 in a 300WSM with 225gr ELD's and Fed 215's. <45gr in a 22-250AI and 88gr ELD's with Fed210's. <60gr in a 284WIN with 180gr ELD's and Fed210's (holy shit it's becoming clear how much of a Hornady fanboy I am). All three of these are virtually full cases and Re26 gives more velocity in all three instances... but that's kinda to be expected what with it being double based. My understanding is Re26's burn rate is right around that of AR2217 but it's a fair bit more energy dense.
But... if the case capacity allows it (which those examples do not), AR2225 is just that bit slower allowing you to add enough extra to match the speeds that Re26 offers. 6.5 PRC seems to be right at that sweet spot and running the numbers in GRT, I could push that load up to 3090 with AR2225 whereas Re26 would top out about 3060.
That's interesting. I love ADI powders (Hodgdon)...what is supply of 2225 like at the moment? A 24" barrel like mine can make use of a slower powder.
It's non existent. But less non existent than Re26. Quite a bit arrived in the last ADI shipment and took a couple of weeks to get snapped up.
Even with a short barrel, it can still give more speed. It's matching case capacity to bore ratio and bullet weight, more than barrel length has anything to do with it.
Really enjoying this thread….
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Interesting the mag length is 3.060" and the COL touching lands hard with 143gn ELDX is 3.035". I have some loads prepared at 2.955" and some 150gn LRABS at 2.925" so a massive jump.
Will load some at 3.015" COL for 20 thou jump? Are ELDXs very jump sensitive?
Trying to wrap my head around this same pressure more speed with longer COL Berger statement.
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143gn ELDX on left at 2.955" COL and same again on right at 3.015" COL (30 thou jump and fits in mag). Testing longer length at 60 and 60.5gn with RE26.
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I tend to go OTT when getting into something new. No 7mm in the cabinet now except a young fella I load for every now and then...but always could be drawn back to a 7mmSaum in the future after having 2 of them.
150gn LRabs not very good. Abandoned.
Longer COL shot worse and same pressure signs with 143gn eldx 60.0gn so 60.5 abandoned.
59gn with 143 eldx seems best but groups not as good at 2.955" - probably me.
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I shoot the 142 ABLR in my Creedmoor and .260 and they shot real well with alot of jump.
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These had about 110thou jump. Can have the handful I have left from sample pack...12 I think.
Thanks for the offer but i have plenty, better to offer them to someone that wants/ needs to try them out.
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Here if anyone wants them.
Interesting 9 shots. 2.935" COL seems good.
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ELDX?
Yes.
Time to go shoot some deer with it.
Yep load development finished.
Functions fine with setting at 12". Reads out to 100y. I have a RAT for suppressors...works better than the mic.
Attachment 205755Attachment 205756 tried out the new magnetospeed this morning and happy to now get a result for every shot unlike the optical one I had. Groups are pretty good considering it hangs on the end of the barrel. Now going to stick with 60gr and play with seating depth a little to try get the ES down.
I could be wrong but I have always used charge weight to get ES down then fiddled seating depth to improve accuracy....with that in mind I would be looking at somewhere between 59.6-60 going off your results and tune accuracy with a seating depth ladder....just my 2 cents
:edit I see your test was virgin and then 2x fired brass.... 60 does look promising as long as pressure is good, but still say seating depth will tune accuracy not so much ES
Are you guys head shooting ants?? :)
I think of it like a 1600CC engine and a 6000cc engine both being fed say 10 mls of petrol per second.... the 1600 will be reving its nuts off and the big 6ltr will be at idle.
the .270w is a classic for this...the short throated ones wont take anywhere near as high of powder charge as the long throated ones.....the weatherby line of cartridges had a long throat for similar reason..the projectile could start moving easier in effect creating a bigger cartridge space to lower pressure.
or so I believe.