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Originally Posted by Beavis
No, but I've got a box to try. Manly because their BC fits my Swarovski ballistic reticle really well (on paper anyway).Quote:
Originally Posted by scoped
Worked up the ladder today with 140gr SST and RL22. Pretty disappointing. I got tight groups with two of the charges, but couldn't get much better than 2400fps, even over book max. Perhaps because my rifle has a huge throat and I have the projectile's seated out to the limit (46.5gr is meant to be a compressed load, nowhere near). Have got a bottle of 760, starting at the .260 max load and working up.
Try only seating the base of bullet 6.5mm in to the case and see what happens I ended up doing that to get good accuracy from the old milsurp swede I had and also ended up going over book maxes to get decent velocity
From reading in the yankee forums think RL19 produces much better velocities than rl22. How were the groups looking?
Has anyone tried the 123gr amaxs?
I have the bullet seated about .30 into the case I think last I measured. Groups were pretty poor except for two loads which were nice. Not sure what to make my max with the 760. Maybe 44-45. There is shit loads of empty space in the case now with the ball powder. Probably 75% full.
Not sure if much use to you but try 120smks. No matter what load I had they all shot well in mine
46.5 grains of RL22 is meant to be at 101% case capacity (as you said meant to be compressed) going by the online data from nosler their OAL was 3.025 inches any chance of getting the rifle barrel set back and re reamed to shorten the throat on it as the rifle may have the long throat to accomodate up to 160 grain bullets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beavis
RL is apparently prone to wild temperature variations where as 2209 is very stable.
I use a T3 23 3/4" barrel (had it threaded). 44.02gn of 2209 / cci primers / lapua brass now 6 times fired = 2735ft/sec on a normal warm day (DA of about 350m elev 1013hpa)
I was using Amax but I'm trying bergers atm. When I pulled my dies apart i found that the Amaxs had a good wobble in the std insert, while the bergers were snug in the micrometre insert that is specifically designed for that projectile.
I'm seating them right back at 3.026" OAL because that is producing better results than I am capable of bettering. Like someone said before, trying to get to the lands is fruitless pursuit with modern T3. My dies allow for a max of about 3.150" but that's using the last flimsy thread on the redding die!
Are you guys (who are reaching the lands on a T3) using custom dies?
Na I don't want to fuck around like that. It can obviously shoot with the right load. I just have to find something that gives the accuracy I want and not 19th century velocity.
I use a VDL seater in my redding competition die for the 140amax.
Yea my Lee seater makes the tips of the sst's look pretty ugly. Will get a Hornady seater and vld plug from Brownells when I get round to it.
You ever shoot any game with em?Quote:
Originally Posted by Toby
Thought the new Howas were meant to be shorter throated. Have a OAL guage coming so will measure my chamber when it arrives in the next few days
Yup, always killed whatever I pointed them at. Only stopped using them because I have nearly run out. Probably wont buy more. Once I run out of 140amaxs I wanna try 130 swifts
Na the throat on mine is loooooong. Like with the length of the magazine and throat, the bullet can be falling out the case mouth.
ream it out to 264 win mag or 6.5-06AI that will sort the throat issue and the 19th century velocity issue :D
Which ADI powder gives best velocity & accuracy with 140's? 2209, 2213....anybody tried 2217???
iv try 09 and 2217 want to try 2213
with 2217 i just started getting good speed but run out of case room
Got a friend that shoots the 129 hornady out of his tikka with the 2213 with good accuracy, not what you asked for but an option.
I'm up to 46.5gr of 760 for around 2500fps. Still no pressure signs.
2700 I meant
hows the groups looking beavis??? mite have to give it a go
Are you using normal primers or magnum ones?
That 46.5 load shot a decent group. The accuracy nodes are spaced quite far apart. I have really just been looking for my rifles max and fire forming my brass.
140gr SST, Virgin Lapua brass and Remington 9.5 primers. Results over the chrony are consistent with low ES and SD.
Im new to reloading but my best groups so far from my howa 6.5 were from r-19 45.0 grains pushing 130 grain serria hpbt gamekings about 2600 fps.
have tried ar2208 with 140 grain a max and interbonds cant get as tighter groups as i have with r19. I got put off the a max rounds cause i got told i shouldnt be hunting with them, apparently they are designed for punching paper.
Just standard ones Toby.
A max's are brutal on game. Haven't personally shot anything with them, but the internet says they're awesome.
the work on game, yet to have any thing get up, have taken wallys at 1000 with them
Always found they are easy to get shooting. Have used them in .308 and 6mm.
Mate uses them in his bro, deer dont like em :D
Amax in 6.5 are exceptional on deer at any distance that I know of from 400 back to 30 yds,there only draw back is there not always easy to get.Having just bought a sweede that I didn't want to re load for.............well reading this thread makes me think twice:omg:,but im going to try some other projectiles as I know how great Amax are so I might give those Sierra HPBT Gamekings in 130gn a go. ill use 2209 as its the most consistant powder ive used and maybe just simple to touch the lands then just back of a touch should do the trick.
jase
maybe ill buy some more amax, should stop reading these yank websites.
Don't read yank fudd boards. Snipers Hide is good value.
Just had some 123gr SST's and some shiney new brass turn up. Will load em up with 2209.
Have nationals this weekend, so will be to busy either celebrating or crying into my beer to get out and shoot.
Will get out the weekend after and see how they go
the 123 amax with a flat 48grns of 2209 , federal match primer are fast and exceptionally accurate in my Sako.
Usual disclaimer about the amount of powder.
Yeah I'll run a pressure ladder from 43. Looking for around 2800ish with the 123's so shouldnt have to push very hardQuote:
Originally Posted by jakewire
My 130gr swift load out of the little single shot is doing pretty much bang on 2600 after checking at range. Dribbling out the barrel compared to what others get but it's at max safe pressure, accurate and consistent. First round hits from cold clean barrel at 504yrds tonight resting over a mound of dirt. It'll do.
Had a play with the 123 SST's and 2209 @3.010 COAL in the howa over the weekend.
Everything above 45 grouped an inch or better with a .6moa at 45.5. Only shot groups up to 46gr but pressure laddered up to 48 with no signs, so will try for a higher node next time out.
Should be doing around 2800 at 46 which should be plenty with the 123's as they are reasonably soft.
Also took the lil bro out, Only the second time he's ever held a rifle and he managed a 4 shot .75 group with crappy S&B 140's. Guess all that call of duty does help a bit....:ORLY:
Good to hear. I will have to dust mine off again when my A max's turn up.
2209 seems to be preferred over 2213. More accurate, faster speeds???