Cant say about the speed but being easy to get and well priced and throws consistantly is a big factor
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Yeah, most manuals show them pretty close speed wise, The max 2213sc loads showed up as compressed, where as the 2209 shows up as around 90% capacity in the nosler manual. Allows a little space to squeeze more in over max
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@Sako85 what was your Coal and were you on the lands or just off??
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Very similar to my 6.5x57AI 47.5 of 2209 129 sst 2900 in fact no real change up to 50 grains, then up to 51.5 and 3030 but getting toasty. 24 inch barrelled Mauser.
Got a chance to nail down my hunting load apart from the chrony not helping and causing frustration im happy with the accuracy. I had ten rounds the first five were wasted trying to get a reading on the chrony then two to zero then after 5 mins I settled down using a mates front and rear rest and consentrated on putting a nice three shot group down range and I was happily supprised at the results.
6.5x55 win primers 48gn of 2209 and topped of with a 130gn sierra HPBT out ma 18" barrel.I will validate by shooting a 300m gong and measuring the drop but im thinking its around 2800fps Accuracy is what im after and im @Happy to have it:thumbsup: hot barrels boys.no more load development hunting and gongs only:D
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Can't offer any technical support to my 2cents worth, because a friend reloads for me. But, he says all his experimentation has led him to loading me up 2209 powder and using Sierra SPBT 140g for hunting Sika/Fallow. Nice grouping at 100 or at my zero of 165m. But I asked him to load me up a heavier bullet for Red stags... Norma 156gn is so stable i shoot moa groups at 100m (when my mood is right!) and chrony says only 2560fps. Deer drop like a stone too.
I add this comment because I found that lighter Hornady SST projectiles were horribly unstable and inconsistent in my rifle, so bad sometimes that I wouldn't even attempt a head shot or long range shit past 100m with them. Hope this helps
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Speed checked my load while Shooting gongs and fuck this rifle is a little lazer.Lapua brass win lr primer 2209 130gn Sierrra HPBT 18" barrel 2925fps.
best so far is about .6-.7 worst is about 1.3/.4.
Ran a pressure ladder and am only playing at the top end so in all honesty good just be either side of the 'on' node. Would probably have been better put as "havnt found a load that shoots worse than 1.3"
I'm were I want to be at with minimal Fucking around so I'm impressed with the usability of this rifle and Cal.after my little gong session this arvo in shitty weather I know were this thing is going to hit.
Yeah man cant complain with results like that.
Wish I could get out to the range more than once a month. Might make this process a little quicker
I am currently working up a load for my Howa in 6.5x55 using 140gr Accubonds with 2209 Fed 210 Primers and PMC Brass. I have been using a COAL of 3.050" but that seems to be longer than anyone else. I haven't had chance to shoot groups with it yet but 45.0gr of 2209 gives me slight ejector marks. Has anyone else tried this projectile?
Might be the brass is too soft or projectile seated deep. My coal is about 79mm
My howa printed (very) slight ejector marks seemingly at random throughout my pressure test, It also prints em on factory SnB which is pretty low pressure. I got marks at 45.5 but none at 46,46.5 or 47.
Think 45 is near max with 2209 and 140's though no?
I get slight ejector marks using a touch over 44gn of 2209. I've had two of the most thorough minds check my brass and they found the expansion to be VERY mild. Almost non existent. If you're not getting any more velocity it might simply be the limitations of your barrel. I had to concede that 2735ft/sec would be my max velocity on a hot humid day. Unburnt powder in my suppressor too
Just beginning to stray away from my standard worked up load a bit. Making use of my donated brass (cheap hunting ammo). Surprisingly I found the federal brass to be the worst to rework back into shape. Very loose neck tension. The PPU brass needed a run though the full length die. Very tight but they showed consistant marks when I was done. Only 1/30 needed to be flicked.
That being said - I've always found federal to be the most accurate off the shelf hunting ammo. What have you guys found in your swedes?
Blue box is the only stuff I shot in mine, was ok. The Snb 140's shoot better for me. Only 2 things I tried before switching to handloads.
The SnB brass seem pretty average. Compared to the norma stuff I have anyway. Shows pressure signs alot earlier
Yeah ADI have max as 44.0gr for AR2209 but I was told this was to keep them safe with all the old mil surp rifles out there.
I too had slight ejector marks at 43.0 as well but figured it was ok when 43.5 didn't have any. 46.0gr did give me a very slightly sticky bolt lift but not hugely noticeable.
I've settled on 46.5 of 2209 with 123's, pressure was fine to 47.7 but groups opened up again.
No chrony so have no idea of speed, but it groups so damn well at 46.5 I'll run with it.
I chronographed my 6.6x55 load the other day. 140 grn AMax & SST, Norma cases, Fed primers, N560. 2830 fps/21.5” barrel. That’s @ .5 grn under max for my rifle.
Bullets touching at 100 yds.
Fair moving Tahr, I'm managing 2700 and a bit with the same component's and a bit longer barrel I might try pumping it up a bit.
.5gr under book max or rifle safe max
I got up to 53gr of N560 with 130swifts and it the chrony only told me its going 2,800fps. Somethings not right I dont think
That's what I would have thought too. I was trying for the magical 3k but to get to my 53gr load and still on 2800fps it was a bit annoying. Especially when book max is 50.2 of N560 in he swede for 2,800+ I was sure I was going to get 3k.
Do you think if I done the same ladder test again but used magnum primers I'll see much difference?
I don't think magnum primers will make much difference apart from bringing your SD down. I can get 2900 easy with 120 grn NBT and W760 powder.
I validate the chrono velocity by using a good balistic program and checking the zero. Like, with my 140 grn load 3" high at 100 should be dead on at 265 yards, and it is (those might not be the exact figures, but you will get the idea).
yes I can knock 2900 with 2209 and the 120gr NBT with excellent accuracy and no bad signs.
You lads using 120gn projectiles - are you still supersonic right out the back (1100m +)?
I'm yet to try em
Trajectory and drift characteristics would be roughly equivalent to a .270 no?
Except for maybe 123gr A max it is sort of pointless running sub 130gr bullets?
Just saying because I thought thr whole point of 6.5 cal is high BC's.