Don't tell everyone about 6.5!
Must say the 168eldm 308 do the trick as well.
When I went to buy my first rifle I quizzed my guru hunting mate and his advice was if your going to put a hole in it make it a big one.
So bought an old Mauser Fiberglass stock 30-06 and no cans in those days!
Talk about recoil!
To be fair shot placement is the big one and not over stepping the chambering and your ability.
It takes years to master the above 3!
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