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Well over rated IMO. They don't have the SD to knock down an animal as quick as a 308. From what I have seen it always takes more than one shot to kill a red.
The flip side is that they are nice to shoot, very accurate and low recoil. That said so is my 308.
Na mate, I've had numerous bang flop kills. The barstards don't even have the decency to roll down the hill for me
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