yeeea nah
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shouldnt miss with that puppie aye:thumbsup:
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yeeea nah
375 jumbo hit barn round
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shouldnt miss with that puppie aye:thumbsup:
What do you call similar? Cause I wouldn't call a 7.5swiss and 30-06 similar yet that's what I have been told its similar too.....
Here it is again, .308win 6.5x55 then "it" Thinking 30 Tobinator
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Well the 308 will drive a 130 Barnes at 3150-3200 normal 150s 2850-2900 168s 2750 odd
Looks a bit bigger so a bit faster if brass is good?
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Ok look, before you get too carried away
I know there are a bunch of dudes on here with ~*custom rifles*~ in weird wildcat chamberings, and it's super cool and you want to be like them, but I think you should really have a very good understanding of exactly what you want to do with a wildcat cartridge, and how you will modify a case to achieve that, before you go down that path, and I also think that there are very few cases where an existing factory cartridge won't already do the job, practically speaking.
It could be a good way to learn things, but it is also highly likely to be a lot of money wasted and frustration to get a cartridge that is a waste of time
As far as this idea goes, I can't think of anything much stupider honestly. There's no reason to do it. The x55 case is a bit oddball in that it has a slightly different rim dimension, it isn't super common and it has a lot of taper. You could neck it up to .30 and blow the shoulder out, to decrease taper for case life/reduced bolt thrust and to increase capacity and end up with.... a weirdo wildcat gun with no resale value in a slightly obscure case that performs exactly the same as .308 or .30-06 in "the real world", which is pretty boring and shitty anyway, which you have to fireform brass for and get custom dies and reamer and blah blah blah
Call me a dick or whatever but fuck, c'mon
Most wildcats are pointless then from your veiw. I dont look at guns and think I wonder what I can sell that for.
Dont need to tell me its pointless again. Got that clear on the first page
Steve's post has to be one of the best for a long time. Funny but accurate. I reckon I fit in there several times over but we have to be able to laugh at ourselves and check our shit is in order every now and then.:D
Gimp you would make a great communist! Didn't you own or still have a .223 AI? Arguably made redundant by a .22-250 or similar.
Some people just get bored with easy.
Good on ya Toby. Keep at it.
So you cant ream out a .308 barrel then because of the taper. It'd have to be a blank barrel?
Had being the operative word.
Key points:
-I built it because I had a .223 action already
-Real world performance was nothing more than a normal .223
-Fireforming is fucking annoying
-I bought into retarded internet hype about custom rifles and wildcats
-I lost a shitload of money on it when I sold it
-Varmint rifles are pretty redundant anyway
At the end of the day it's a tube of brass that contains an explosion to propel a piece of copper and lead, any emotional properties you ascribe to them like ~*oh it's different*~ are entirely imaginary
You might be able to ream a 308 barrel but you would need a long action to fit the case. The x55 case is short in a long action so you are wasting a bit of potential there.
This page may help you, page8d.
These do custom reamers but you may want to investigate cost.
You might want custom FL dies which = $$$. You could get away with neck sizing, maybe.
I'm all for something different Toby but this is going to cost you. I guess a saving grace is that a new owner could just get it re-chambered in 30-06.
What if I found a 6.5x55 to start with? It wouldn't need work on the bolt then would it?
Probably. Depends on the brass you use to I think.
how did that muzzle break go for your 22 toby?
the problem with basing something off the x55 case is that it is short for a long action and too long for a short action, If you find a mid lenght action out their built around the x55 case then yea. I just seem to think you are loosing the best bit of the 6.5x55, and that is the 6.5 aspect
you might also gain more traction by looking at the 7mm or 6mm bore. as they seem to be flavor of the month. 30cal..... boring
the case taper aspect would create differculty if using a 308 barrel, if you improved the case then you might get away without having to set the barrel right back
If you want a successful wildcat it has to fill a niche that is currently lacking, I think a pistol length subsonic cartrage would be ideal out of a pistol legth barrel in a pistol length action, like a 45apc but in 30 caliber
I have been thinking about this for a while and came to this conclusion. Why don't you just buy a cheap 308 and reload for 308?
I have a .308 and reload for that .308
I guess you could make it dumber by necking it up to .277
well toby would love a 270
If you're that bored then pick up the school books.
well,if we necking up an down, here's a full circle. It started with the 7x57 which was modified to give us the 30-06 which in turn was shortened to give us the .308. The .308 is necked down to give us the 7mm-08 which is really the ballistic twin to the 7x57.???????????????:roll:
read that somewhere
Toby, couldn't you use the time and money to go hunting?
Just for you Gimp another waste of time creation.
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Oh the top one was a .270 :)
useless would be 6.5x.303 British :XD:
wat about a 223x55