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I realize that I have used the same bullet, and it worked well for me but i don't shoot pigs with it. The standard Gameking is no tougher and the prohunter maybe slightly. I have sectioned the sierra bullets and the jacket thickness is pretty much the same https://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co....ectiles-59385/.
But the Speer I recommended is much tougher.
As to the deer yeah I stand corrected the US deer are bigger than our little Stewart Island one's, but still a pig is a tougher animal.
I have used the Sierra 140 Game King for years, never had any reason to doubt what they can do, never failed me on deer, pigs or tahr Have also loaded some 139 SST's and they shoot pretty much the same, but yet to take anything with them. Have some 150 Remington Corlokt that a young fella has been using, but haven't heard the results yet.
When I had a 708 I used the Hornady 139 gr SP with good results, I also tried the Barnes XLC 140 gr and even at about 2700 fps they opened up well. Most the time these were shot at bush hunting ranges so still had a bit of speed behind them. I have loaded for other people the 150 gr ELDX at around 2700 fps and these work well too.
162 ELDM. Very accurate and deadly.
Nosler B/tips 140gn with 2208
Federal Fusion 140 is solid performer and good value. You can buy them as a component.
Following this with great interest
I have an 18 inch 708 and shoot out to 300...mostly but occasionally a little further on red deer.
Have only used factory rem 120 and federal 140 or 150 gr.
Be interested to find a handhold to improve accuracy and knockdown between 100 and 300m
Hope that's not a hijack
B
I use 120 gr Sierras in my Kimber 7mm-08 and my mates 7mm-08 shooting Fallow to some big ass red stags with great success.
Another good one is 120 gr BT’s
I have been using 139 Hornady’s in the 284 and they have been excellent. Just got a short barrel 7mm08 and have a box of 120 and 140BTs to try out. I wanted 150BTs for the 284 but they seem hard to find so I’m going to swap onto the 140BTs in that also.
Those 145gr speer HCSP are legit. Shot a 80-90lb sow quartering away inside 100m and found my projectile mushroomed on the opposite side.
Another vote for 162eldm if you can get them shooting. Not expensive, work much better at a slower MV and have been devastating on all animals i shot with them(yearling fallow upto rutting red and sika stags)
Interesting to see the use of 162gr projectiles in the 7mm08 – what’s the muzzle velocity on them? Do you push it out range-wise at all? A heavier bullet will definitely have less wind drift, but I would have thought the slower speed would impact it at distance? Possibly the higher ballistic coefficient negates that?Quote:
Originally Posted by joelhenton
Like you, most people have been surprised when I mentioned the projectiles blowing up. As others have said though, it’s a hollow point, so a soft point might make the difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by planenutz
Not shooting very far – everything so far has been 200m or less. In this case these shots were at ~100m. The future will likely see me shooting further, so I'm working up loads with an eye to start stretching further on paper just to learn something new.Quote:
Originally Posted by GWH
I’m not overly fussed on velocity aside from keeping bullets moving at the right speed to perform at the right range – most of my focus is on the load that shoots the tightest groups, which has the 140gr speer hollow points going something like ~2650fps at the muzzle and ~2450fps at 100m.
There’s a lot of love for the Sierra soft point gamekings and prohunters, so I’m thinking I’ll give them a try as well as the Nosler ballistic tips, seeing as I already have them :P
Very good point on the hollow point vs soft point. It had slipped my mind that I had the soft point option so will have to give them a try.Quote:
Originally Posted by GWH
Another vote for the Sierras, much appreciated :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Husky1600
Have you found the increased ballistic coefficient of the 162 gr projectiles outweighs the reduced velocity over 140 gr projectiles?Quote:
Originally Posted by superdiver
I’ve been working on the theory that velocity of a similar 140gr projectile is preferable to increased projectile weight of a similar 160gr projectile in the 7mm08 because the case capacity and max pressure is so small that an increase in weight leads to significant decrease in velocity, with decreased bullet performance at lower velocities and a less-flat trajectory, which is a major reason why I like 7mm projectiles. I may be overthinking this though, I have been known to be wrong occasionally :P
Hi Canross,
Muzzle velocity in my Kimber Montana in 7mm-08 with 16" barrel was 2488fps when I last chrono'd it using CFE223 and the Hornady 162gr ELD-M. I think it's on the warm side, I have to seat the ELD-M projectiles rather deep to fit my Kimber magazine.
Regards,
Joel
@canross your best bet is to download a basic ballistics app and run some numbers. Often a projectile with a BC as high as the 162 ELD-M going slow will outperform a lighter projectile going faster when compared at distance due to its extra weight and superior BC carrying energy further for longer. Not always the case but often is. Just a matter of running some numbers which is super easy to do.
To answer your question on velocity with the 162 ELD-M,
The Mrs Tikka 7mm08 sends them at 2600 fps out of a 19 inch barrel with a very sensible load of 2208 (it's the Mrs rifle so wanted a nice safe, lite recoil load).
That gives 8 inches of drop at 300 yards.
Very slightly more drop than a 120 grain bullet leaving the barrel at 3000fps, a bit less than 7 inches of drop at 300 yards.
The 162 ELD-M carries 1000 foot pounds of energy to nearly 800 yards with a muzzle velocity of 2600fps. It'll never shoot anything that far away though ha ha.
What kind of speeds are people getting with the lighter bullets?
To answer your question on velocity with the 162 ELD-M,
The Mrs Tikka 7mm08 sends them at 2600 fps out of a 19 inch barrel with a very sensible load of 2208 (it's the Mrs rifle so wanted a nice safe, lite recoil load).
That gives 8 inches of drop at 300 yards.
Very slightly more drop than a 120 grain vmax bullet leaving the barrel at 3000fps, a bit less than 7 inches of drop at 300 yards.
The 162 ELD-M carries 1000 foot pounds of energy to nearly 800 yards with a muzzle velocity of 2600fps. It'll never shoot anything that far away though ha ha.
What kind of speeds are people getting with the lighter bullets?