Has anyone used 2213sc in a 7x57 and 140 gr pills.Looking for a starting load.cheers
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Has anyone used 2213sc in a 7x57 and 140 gr pills.Looking for a starting load.cheers
Think 2213 might be at the wrong end of the scale for the 7x57. I use 42gn's 2206H/4895 with the 140 SGK for 2700fps. Very decisive kills on deer, tahr and pigs.
Wont get enough 2213sc in the case to do anything useful with a 140gr. Even 2209/H4350 is often a compressed load with a 140gr range pill. 2208 or 2206h will be a better option.
W760 for the win. Use a magnum primer with it.
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760 is best, then probably 2209 next.
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works great in .270 and the two cases arent so dissimilar in many ways..what does the loading manuals say???
Another vote for w760, best speeds of anything I tried.
Have always wondered what hogdon superformance would do in it but couldn’t find any data for a starting point so never tried it
2213sc is only really good for long barrels and medium to heavy bullets. I use it for long-range in my 26" .30-06 with 168 grainers, getting 2950 fps and sub MOA groups with moderate pressures. It might work in a long barreled 7x57 with 175 or 196 grainers.
In this order for me;
Win 760
Norma 204
AR2209
Had no issues using F210's with 760.
Mine loves RL19. Interarms Mk X, 21in barrel. A 140- or 150-grain bullet with Reloder-19 and 49.5 or 50 grains will get you accuracy with velocity of around 2,850 fps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Titanium
I'm using 150gn Remington CorLokt SPs. I'm max 250m shooter and hunt for the pot. Very effective load, not a lot of meat damage.very accurate hunting load.
Also I was advised on this forum to use Magnum primers with RL 19. I did extensive load tests with 3 shots each of mag and regular primers, everything else the same, full ladder from min to max charge in .2 gn increments. Difference tended to be nil or slightly lower velocity with the Magnums. Not sure why. Accuracy seemed no diff. Stuck with regular.
Thanks for replies, I was given a bag of stuff to reload for a friend and all he gave me was the 2213sc.Ive got rl19 so will try some of that. Cheers
Let us know how it works outQuote:
Originally Posted by Titanium
I run H414 in my 7x57R, and h4350 (48g) in My m70 7x57, Tried 4381 and didn't get the speed of 4381, or 414,
One day I will try a 120gr Barnes with Varget,
Greetings @Titanium,Quote:
Originally Posted by Titanium
Depending on what your friend is expecting I wouldn't be too quick to write of AR2213SC (H4831SC). Hodgdon lists the powder for the 140 grain with a start of 47 grains and a compressed load of 49.5 grains for 2,719 fps. Granted this is a low pressure load and faster powders should give more velocity when worked up closer to 50,000CUP but 2,700 fps loads will not bounce off deer in spite of what you may read elsewhere.
Regards Grandpamac.
Thanks, will give this ago before the rl19, he's not expecting much, only shoots out to couple hundred, cheers for info.Quote:
Originally Posted by grandpamac
Greetings All,
As it was raining and a bit cold outside and I am a bit of a wuss about that these days I had a bit of a dig in some of my old manuals to see what was recommended as a load for the 7x57 a while back compared to the 49.5 grains in the current data. Please don't try any of these loads as they are way over the top.
First was an old Lyman Manual around 1975 which suggested a compressed charge of 53.5 grains of 4831 (probably the old surplus stuff) for 2,816 fps. Crikey! Looking a bit further the rifle was a Mauser 95 with a 29" barrel with a 0.2865" groove dia (yes I typed that right). So 4 extra grains of powder and 5 inches more barrel only yielded an extra 100 fps. No surprise that this was not a pressure tested load.
Next came the first Nick Harvey manual from 1980. Nick listed 52 grains of 4831 with the 140 grain for 2,830 fps with no barrel length or rifle specified. This was likely the Nobels version of 4831 which was marketed by Hodgdons as H4831 at the time. Again no pressures stated.
The most 7x57 data is stated to develop around 45,000 CUP so is loaded down in the US in deference to a lot of really old rifles including Remington Rolling Block single shots. The Hodgdon data is one of these. Nosler data lists loads that are hotter with 51 grains of the faster IMR4831 producing 2,762 fps with the 140 grain projectile so Nicks old load of 52 grains, while hot, is in line with the hotter Nosler data. 53.5 grains however is way over the top and could take a modern tight groove short throat rifle apart.
So what did we learn from this. For me it is to only use modern load data published by the powder and projectile manufacturers. Shop around by all means within this data to get a better understanding especially with cartridges that are routinely underloaded in the US and I have found the Nosler data good for this. Do NOT use any load that is published in posts on the internet some of which may have been imagined rather than actually loaded. Also work up with a chronograph and do not exceed the load data velocity as this is a better indication of pressure.
Lets all be careful out there.
Regards Grandpamac.