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Good to see it bedevils others . LOL.

https://forum.accurateshooter.com/th...er-it.4140345/

Originally Posted by TeRei

Good to see it bedevils others . LOL.

https://forum.accurateshooter.com/th...er-it.4140345/

Amusing reading for sure

I tried some copper frangible bullets in my Howa heavy barrel varmint 223 that I used to have. Anything under 50gr and many 55gr would usually be close to the same hole at 100m. But the cupper frangibles were worse than the 69gr .....over 4 inches if I went to heavier bullets,,,,shotgun pattern sized 7 inch group with the 53gr coppers....I could not promise a good hit on a goat sized animal at 100m and I was trying to hit rabbits at 250-300m......

I never found out what they were like for actually dropping an animal as I was not prepared to risk wounding one with accuracy that poor....Wont go down that route again....

Classic case of too slow a twist

Originally Posted by 6x47

Classic case of too slow a twist

Maybe, but it would stabilise heavier 55gr normal SP ones . Would the physical size have anything to do with that instead of weight? I figure the copper were slightly less dense then even though the weight falls within the projectile weights that worked, the physical diemensions would have been closer to the the ones that did not....

You're onta it. Required twist rate is largely dependent on projectile length, not weight.

In my 7-08 which I started out using conventional 140gr cup-n-cores, I changed to 120 TTSXs which would be in roughly the same twist ballpark.

Can’t say I agree with that thread. Mono’s have their place. Are they perfect - no. But is any bullet? Obviously not or we would all have it!

He had me slightly interested and amused until he said this.
" I have seen the inconsistency of especially Barnes. To slow doesn't open well, to fast it pin holes. "

Simply not how it works.
I'd like very much for someone to show (high speed video would be great) how pushing a barnes too fast causes it to pencil.
I don't think it is possible to push a barnes too fast with any technology available to civilian people.

Yep, can’t speak too much for Barnes but can for hammers. Consistency in terminal performance regardless of speed (above their minimum) is the best thing about them. Not to mention the easy accuracy.
Downsides are cost and bc, cost I see as a non issue as who cares about paying $1 extra to shoot a deer when you are probably carrying several thousand bucks of gear to shoot it, and bc can be negated at short-medium ranges by the generally faster speeds monos tend to be sent at