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Team,
I have what i believe to be 100-200 pulled ADI projectile 144gr or there abouts.
Has anyone put together a load using these projectiles, ive a stack of ADI2208 for my 308 target rifle and would like to use that powder if possible.
The rifle being used is a Norinco M305 (M14) ive already an accurate hunting load for it so these are more for fun than anthing, or scrub bashing, who knows!
Cheers
IIRC 45 of 2208 should be sweet
Yes 45gr 2208 in an ADI case behind a 155gr MK projectile was virtually the NRA standard so same with 144gr projectiles should be OK. (Usual reloading caveats apply of course)Quote:
Originally Posted by Spanners
The 144gr ADI was on occasion a truly shite projectile with unfortunately the Australians passing on some of their lower quality batches to NZ.
What did you pull them out of?
I managed to aquire them a couple of years back, i cant recall where from exactly but ive a about 100 - 200 of pull ex-milsup projectiles, one lot has ADI, ive tried loading them in the Omark, not with a lot of success, thats why i think they were relegated to the back of the projectile cupboard! But ive decided to load up something for fun with the M14.Quote:
Originally Posted by zimmer
Spanner, thanks for the info.
Best of luck with them Tertle. Blasting them away thru an M14 is probably all they are good for. In NRA shooting here in NZ when the transition occurred from the ADI 144s to first Lapua Lock Bases and then the Sierra MK's the difference in performance was enormous. Rifle Clubs and individuals who had stockpiled the 144's were left with vast stocks of them that no one wanted.
Yeah, im currently using Dyer projectiles in my NRA set up, The M14 needs feeding, hence where these are heading, after that i will keep the hunting load for hunting and i may tinker with some cast loads, but i will throw some together with 45gr 2208 and see what happens, the worst thing possibly that could happen with the ADI's is i get to spend a day at the range having fun!
I've found 45gr a bit hot in my rifle, depends alot on case and headspace. Maybe ok with the lighter projectile, feed anything from 150 to 168gr on 44.3 ADI2208, good case life no flat primers no obvious case stretch. Always found the need to ream the primer seats for full depth on most cases.............just my experience loading for m14/305
Tertle, are you shooting the Dyers out of an Omark ?
What weight are they ? Are they the club ones via NRA, or different supplier ?
Good advice for loading for a semi auto.Quote:
Originally Posted by justjon
Anyone know what the BC is for the 144gr ADIs pls ?
+1, I seem to have acquired 500 of the bloody things.
BC for ADI .224 62gn would eb good as well.
I will take the 144g projectiles off your hands if you don't want them.Quote:
Originally Posted by dogmatix
Interesting.. In my target rifle I'm running lapua brass and the OTM lapua scenars 12 thou jump 42.5gr 2206h and that's heavily compressed. 2960fps ish. I must have a very short throat if you guys can get 45gr into your loads.
heavily compressed is 52grains 2208 with a 130ttsx seated to fit mag!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr-Bound
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I'm running 2208 45.5gn loads with 150gn FMJs OAL 56.46mm (4.88mm jump) and 44.5gn with 155gn Amaxes OAL 55.2mm (3.9mm jump) all Lake City brass. I sold off my Lapua brass, so can't check the case capacity. That's weird that your loads are compressed with 2206H.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr-Bound
I'm going to try them out this weekend, so if I can't get decent results, will give you a buzz.Quote:
Originally Posted by jim160
I'm talking 155's. I didn't go look to see how different 2208 and 2206h are bulk wise but still, I should get the throat reamed out a bit I think...
Yeah, I use 155gn Amaxes.
2208 will be a little bit more bulky, not by much though.
I ran 47gr 2208 and 168 amax for 2750fps at max mag length.
was what i would call "lightly compressed"
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They must be to ogive? Mine are at 2.850" OAL roughly.Quote:
Originally Posted by dogmatix
Yep, measure my loads to ogive.
I'm telling lies, I can hear powder now. They're compressed when they're seated, must be settling with all the rattling about in the hilux going over the pass to Christchurch :D
Dropper tube should sort it out. No pressure at all in mid summer, I can crack the 3K with a bit more in there I think.
Yip, that sounds quite short.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr-Bound
Normal club loads with 2208 is 45.0, I started seeing some pressure signs around 45.5
For 155 Scenars I am using 44.5 2206h with no issues, my go-to long range load, used these out to 1200 @ Wairarapa superlongs, in comparison the 2208 loads were getting suspect above 900yds.
Switching to Dyers for next season, can't get any moe Scenars from NRA...
I didn't see how they could be"heavily compressed"Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr-Bound
that to me is audibly crunching powder, projectiles being pushed back out etc
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Really? why not? There was ammo orders done down here a few months ago through the club.Quote:
Originally Posted by ebf
They are audibly crunchy, very crunchy. They haven't moved out at all. After seating there is no powder moving inside the case whatsoever. They get shaken a lot in the box going back and forth over the pass, must have settled the powder a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
Too expensive apparently. The options we got were noslers and dyer hbc (?mk2)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr-Bound
Bugger. Nosler customs I guess. I buy all my own anyway so I'll stay with scenars I think. May give the bergers a hoon to see if they'll work in this barrel.Quote:
Originally Posted by ebf
@ebf I emailed ADI and got the following:Quote:
Originally Posted by ebf
Thank you for your enquiry of 9/6/2014 with regard to reloading using ADI Sporting powders.
The Ballistic Coefficients are as follows:
.224 62 grain FMJ G1 Ballistic Coefficient = 0.320
.308 144 grain FMJ G1 Ballistic Coefficient = 0.379
Extreme caution should be taken and loads should be worked up accordingly. Refer to our website at www.adi-powders.com.au or our 6th edition handloaders’ guide for more information, warnings and reloading safety.
We thank you for using ADI Sporting Powders.
Yours sincerely,
ADI Technical Centre