Thread: ADI powder shortage... Is 2209 turning into the new fairy dust?

Any tips on where we can get 2209 in the north island?

the current US climate is making it hard to stock up and prepare for the coming precision rifle season.

Cheers you lot.

Where have you tried so far?

I bought a bottle from Gun Bits in Opotiki a week or so back. From memory the guy is Graeme Pask and runs an engineering/hardware store there. Failing them, try Cerakote NZ in Tauranga.

They all are at the moment, I had to go to Hastings to get some 2217 and I'm in palmy.

Theres plenty of IMR 4350 floating around, pretty much the same.

This sounds familiar..............managed to get probably the last of the 2213SC in the South Island about 3 weeks ago

Originally Posted by Husky1600

Theres plenty of IMR 4350 floating around, pretty much the same.

Nope, Hodgdon 4350 is similar to 2209.

IMR 4350 has a different burn rate.

Looked all over for 2209 with no luck so ended up with RL17 which I believe used to be hard to get.

@ebf is there a table similar to the powder equivalents that has burn rates?

Originally Posted by charliehorse

@ebf is there a table similar to the powder equivalents that has burn rates?

This is the one I tend to use

Powder equivalents - ADI World Class Powders and Ammunition

Even different batches of the same powder can have pretty significant changes. Speak to any fullbore shooter and they will tell you about batch differences in 2208.

In my experience Hodgdon seems to have slightly less variation compared to ADI.

Comparative Powder Burning Rates

I got the following after ringing a few gun shops: Apparently powder cant be posted/couriered anymore and alot of gunshops are awaiting late september for the rep to drive up and down the country dropping off powder.

Originally Posted by Timmay

I got the following after ringing a few gun shops: Apparently powder cant be posted/couriered anymore and alot of gunshops are awaiting late september for the rep to drive up and down the country dropping off powder.

In the case of ADI lines it has to arrive in the country first. Dealers like Steve's Wholesale do the powder runs.

And nothing is guaranteed with delivery dates into NZ even from Oz. Very few ships will carry. Several years ago, so the story goes, NZ's Vihtavuori order initially got unloaded in Oz then ended up back in Finland.

Got to be careful with those "equivalent" charts. Usually they match up different powders and state them as having exactly the same characteristics when in a lot of cases they may not, in particular depending upon the cartridge they are loaded in.

In the case of the one in Post 11 is places Hodgdon H4350 as being ever so slightly slower than ADI2209 when in actual fact they are exactly the same powder. The only difference may be is that Hodgdon may get 2209 with tighter upper and lower tolerances from Thales then brand it with their name. Although that one does say "comparative".

To be used as a guide only.

I had 2 lbs each of 300mp and RL26 turn up at the shop today. If it doesn't go off for some reason I should never have to buy anymore for quite a few years.

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