Thread: "Air space" in 303 British and 308 Winchester caseloads...Dangerous?

Originally Posted by Kiwi Sapper

What Ho Chaps,

My thanks for your helpful and reassuring posts. I now understand that:

Case neck to projectile contact should be the diameter of the projectile.......Although this precludes my efforts to substantially reduce bullet jump in my 308. So be it. I asked, you answered, I follow.

As I seek "hot loads like a gay guy seeks a couger," and as an x civil servant, "I can follow the handbook instructions", <80% low loads are of no interest" SO filling "air space" with modern powders will not be an issue.


The "Boat tail" comments are particularly helpful and reassuring. I only have a left over 80 pack of them which I will save for the rainy day I runut of FMJ for the Spanish FR 8 which is #2 308.

Just a couple of "things'..........

Thing 1......I learned a new word today....concentricity I Googled and apart from understanding a central point of a circle....I am still Duh and fail to understand the link to projectiles...apart from being round and "balanced'


Thing 2......I still lack guidance on my query "does the OAL measurement as given in the appropriate dies have any relevance to the above? i.e not to be exceeded under any circumstances"

I understand @mimms2 post ( Thank You) "..OAL depends on projectile and a more useful measurement is "Base to Ogive" as homing in on "bullet jump" i encountered another new word Ogive and I have acquired the goodies required to measure that and it is the measure for improvment ......even if I can't achieve it because of chamber length.

SO, is OAL a safety Law or guidance?


Again, many thanks.



P.S. @grandpamac....

I followed your guidance re projectiles for the Parker Hale Mauser 308 and now have a goodly collection of Hornady Interlock 150 flat base . The 80 BT 's are leftover from seeing which she liked :>)

Greetings Kiwi Sapper,
In answer to your specific Question no 2. The maximum OAL listed in some manuals is there as a suggestion only. Provided you have the projectile seated far enough into the case to keep it there and the cartridge will fit in the magazine there will be no problem. Some testing that I have read showed that a longer jump to the rifling does reduce velocity somewhat. Seating the projectile further out to be close to the rifling in the same chamber reduces velocity a little more. I seat the projectiles further out in my 6.5 with no problems.
Regards Grandpamac.