Afternoon all.
How are people in the subsonic world going with 190gn Hornady SubX projectiles? I am just about out of the 200gn Lapuas I had been using and am interested in these as a replacement.
Cheers.
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Afternoon all.
How are people in the subsonic world going with 190gn Hornady SubX projectiles? I am just about out of the 200gn Lapuas I had been using and am interested in these as a replacement.
Cheers.
Loaded some up something like two months ago.
Still haven’t been to the range to test them!
I’ll get some at some stage and give them a try.
I have some to load up as well , but the factory ones shoot very well for me already
@Pengy has some and gave me a handfull to try. Haven't loaded them up yet.
Bought in March, loaded in April, none fired yet - s**t I’m slack!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cigar
One step closer.
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Do you knowledgeable lot think a 30-30 in 1-10" twist (barrel length 17") would handle these 190gr SubX alright? I know they've got the factory boxed 30-30 option in 175gr but I don't think the 175gr projectiles are available as components for handloaders.
Thanks,
Joel
Not that I have even shot one yet but id say you should be fine, have shot more pointy 190gr subs from 1 in 11 with no stability issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by joelhenton
As VC says you should be ok. Just shoot them with the suppressor off first to test stability...just in case.Quote:
Originally Posted by joelhenton
Good advice, thanks guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shearer
Joel
Who’s selling theses Hornady 190gr sub-x projectiles? a mate wants to run them in his gun.
me too, steves wholesale?
Yeah. None in the country at the moment though.
;)
Finally made it to the range today!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cigar
I still have some work to do. The 151gr cast projectiles are just subsonic (1106fps) with 8gr of Trailboss, but the Sub-X 190gr are way slower, 696fps with 8gr, 854fps with 9gr.
Ok. I haven't chronographed mine but am using 11gns TB and they seem to go supersonic at 12gns (16" T3). It will be interesting to see your speeds if you go up a few grains.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cigar
Loaded a few more Sub-X rounds today from 10 to 12 grains of Trailboss, hopefully it doesn't take me another 6 months to get to the range again!
I have settled on 11.5gr of Trailboss with the Sub-X, gives me 1094fps. 10gr was 949fps, 12gr was 1133fps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cigar
I'm surprised at the difference the projectile makes, 7.5 grains for the 151gr cast bullet and 11.5 for the 190 Sub-X...that's over 50% more powder!
The difference is partly due to the weight difference and partly due to friction, having to engrave a solid copper jacket with a full length bearing surface as opposed to a grooved lubricated lead bullet even if they were the same weight you would need less powder with the cast bullet to obtain the same velocity.
Apart from being cleaner to handle I never have seen any advantage offered by subsonic jacketed bullets over cast lead especially with a hollow point.
I fired a few rounds I developed for my 1:8 twist thru my 1:12 twist today, round holes at 50m (and good grouping) so it looks like they are stable. Sounded like they might be supersonic though, didn't take the chronograph.Quote:
Originally Posted by joelhenton
On that note does anyone notice the difference with or without the suppressor when shooting subs through a 30 call rifle? I’m yet to notice it myselfQuote:
Originally Posted by Shearer
In my 300 BLK it's something like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by G.I_Joel
Unsuppressed: Bang.
Suppressed: Clickwoosh.
About the same difference as a 22 subsonic with or without a suppressor. I found the factory 300 blk subsonic loads didn't always stay sub. 16" barrel bolt action.
Mine was the same. 16.5" Bergara. Factory 190gr Sub-X claimed at 1050fps was actually doing 1142fps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe_90
I' would have similar rifle in .308, not had long .Quote:
Originally Posted by Pommy
Picked ups some barnaul 140gn softpoints for less than a dollar a round. Not sub sonic, yet surprisingly quiet put through suppressor and plenty accurate for cheap ammo.
Purchased from hunting and fishing also another surprise considering their mark ups, yet our local one has always been better to deal with than other outlets.
Would definatly get some more.
