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ppc yip THATS what I was thinking of.... so its diferent from the 5.45x39 but has same front and rear LOL....
Nah the 5.45x39 is different again, it is a thinner case than the PPC, it has a base diameter of 10mm where the .22PPC, .220 Russian (5.6x39) 6.5 Grendel and 7.62x39 etc has a 11.3mm base.
They all have different shoulder angles and body tapers too.
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