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What ballistic program is the best one to use.
I've been using the jbm program on the net and also have used the Sierra program as well.
Anyone know of other program's to use. Wanting a program that is user friendly with an iPad for use on the range.
Does anyone have any suggestions.
Shooter by Sean Kennedy or Brian Litz's one, not sure if you can get it for ipad though.
Shooter seems to be the most common. I use iSnipe and a friend uses Ballistics and using the same inputs we have compared data between them have only found a variation of one quarter of a minute of angle after 1000 yards so the algorithms are obviously very close to one another and I suspect that it will be little different with Shooter as well.
Sounds good. Is there any chance of getting a copy of shooter program. If I can't get one for the iPad. Any good program will be good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rushy
Hoping to do more long range stuff and I need accurate info
Shooter is about $13 at the AppStore
That means inputs too,bullshit in = bulshit out.Quote:
Originally Posted by jim160
So true. Got a drop chart sorted once and got the wrong velocity and it put it miles out at the other end.Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
Should get a chrony in the next week or so so will have the correct data to put in. And will have the right values for all so will give the best info for drop chart.
Been bitten with crap in crap out once before. Need to get it right.
Hoping to get the shooter app so that should help.
after all the apps and chrony work I would still spend rounds on drop validation.Its invaluable and a simple chore taught to me by a Forum member.
So true. You cant rely fully on the chart. But its certainly a good starting point. I would practice and prove at long ranges, if I had the opportunity. Good practice regardlessQuote:
Originally Posted by Neckshot
you need a long range? @BRADSQuote:
Originally Posted by jim160
Yeah mate we have all ready made a date after lambing:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Neckshot
Let ya no when think he's talking November,
Shooter is great & it goes on the I-pad or I-phone etcQuote:
Originally Posted by jim160
I need to sort out the load development and drop charts for the 190 & 210g Bergers. I have been using 155g so there is some work to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neckshot
Any ideas of a starting load for a 30-338 win mag. I have some load data in Winchester powder but curious what the max & min load is for ADI powders. Then I would have a starting point. Most stuff I've found is in every powder except adi.
Any ideas or suggestions
No but here is my re loading manual.... @7mmsaum :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by jim160
http://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co.n...ad.php?p=10809
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Do you think I should use 2209 or 2213SCQuote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
I have no Idea, don't own any Magnums.
Just thought it would help you cross reference some data.
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Quickload gives the following MAX loads and velocity based on a 26" barrelQuote:
Originally Posted by jim160
190 berger AR2209 69gr 2991fps
190 berger Ar2213SC 71gr 2970 fps
210 berger AR2209 66gr 2834 fps
210 berger AR2213SC 68.5gr 2820fps
I can bring a chrony on Saturday:)
A few loads here to give you an indication.Quote:
Originally Posted by jim160
.30-338 Winchester Magnum @ www.reloadersnest.com
Looks like 2213 & 2217 would be worth investigating.
Compared to the Hodgdon/Adi 300 Win mag data the weight differences between those two powders is a little close, are they the same pressures according to quick load ?Quote:
Originally Posted by NZShoota
Thanks for the offer, but the NI Chrony should be arriving today for me to use.Quote:
Originally Posted by NZShoota
I'm doing some shooting on the weekend. I don't have the Bergers yet. Picking them up on Saturday as well.
Might get some 2217 and give that a go as well to see if that's better.
@NZShoota would you have any data for 240g. I think they are SMK.Quote:
Originally Posted by NZShoota
The heaviest I found in what everyone has given is for 220g.
I have them so might as well use them I guess.
Pressure up around 60600psi for both powders /loads. It only gives a rough indication.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg
Near max loads according to Qucikload (60600psi) 26" barrelQuote:
Originally Posted by jim160
240 SMK AR2209 62.5gr 2643fps
240 SMK AR2213SC 64.8gr 2629fps