It's not irrelevant, because to get a "good" BC in the .6 range with a .30 cal for example you're looking at a 210gr bullet, which has a LOT of recoil, and you need a case on the order of .300 win mag size to push it as fast as a .260 can push a .6BC bullet, for the same external ballistics.
150grain round nose launched from a 308 win at a realistic 2850fps.
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178grain amax launched at a comfortable 2975fps from 30-284
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"Hunting and fishing" fucking over licenced firearms owners since ages ago.
308Win One chambering to rule them all.
My argument is relevant when people that I know are running around with all the latest wildcats 6.5 this that or the other thing. "6.5 will hands down beat 30 cal blah blah blah when it comes to coeffients blah blah blah. My 6.5 cheats the wind blaaahhh" Just seems a little pointless when a standard 270, 30-06, 7mm rem mag or 300 win mag will do the job.
How many people hunt with round nose bullets Vietnamcam? Stuff all unless you're a pig hunter with a 30-30.
Used to use em not very long ago at all for bush![]()
"Hunting and fishing" fucking over licenced firearms owners since ages ago.
308Win One chambering to rule them all.
Ok here is a 150gr interlok boat tail.
It has twice the windage of a better pill out of what is essentially a 30-06
"Hunting and fishing" fucking over licenced firearms owners since ages ago.
308Win One chambering to rule them all.
Here you go then Gimp, 6.5 140 Berger Vld
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"That is ever the way of the Highlander. He alters like a clear pool to every mood of the sky, so that the shallow observer knows not how deep the waters are."
30 cal 155gr Berger vld. Very little difference at 1000 yards. I wonder what would have more energy?
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"That is ever the way of the Highlander. He alters like a clear pool to every mood of the sky, so that the shallow observer knows not how deep the waters are."
Here Gimp, I'll even drop the 30-06 velocity down for you.
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"That is ever the way of the Highlander. He alters like a clear pool to every mood of the sky, so that the shallow observer knows not how deep the waters are."
There's something seriously wrong with your calcs there fulla. When I run a 30 cal 155 VLD @ 3050 in a 6mph wind Balistic gives a drop of 28 moa (so 112 of your 1/4 clicks ) and 5.3 moa Windage. ( 21 1/4 clicks). ??
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Just a slopy retrobate
Just leave him to play with his ballistic app. If he did any sort of shooting at distance with the projectiles and velocities he's using in his examples he would realise really quickly how silly he's sounding.
Till then......
I think what is actually important with the bc of a bullet is the windage, drop is the easy part.
Wind is often misjudged, and therefore a higher BC bullet is more forgiving when you Getty the wine wrong. Just about every thing else can be measured easily.
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