Thread: Berger vs Accubonds

Originally Posted by Flyblown

I didn’t say that!

ah the intricacies of the english language. " as @Flyblown has stated they are a tough bonded pill."
My bad, i sued the word tough, instead of hard. LOL.

Originally Posted by outdoorlad

I used the 140gn ones in my 270 for a while, everything I shot died but quite a few deer needed follow up shots due to pass thru’s, I reckon you need to go to a lighter weight (140gn for a 7Rem mag/130gn for 270) and drive them FAST and hit bone as they are a really hard projectile.

I’ve had good results from the 129gn LRAB in a 6.5

I’m will past them now.
You can stick them where the sun doesn’t shine IMO

Originally Posted by Nick-D

If you are taking longer shots often stick with the bergers. Tge 150 eld x might be worth a look as well. Good bc

I had a look at one during the week. unfortunately to fit my mag they would have to be seated to far back in the case for my liking. So that may rule out the LRAB as well. I suppose I could try some Ballistic Tips and see how they go.....

Has the Berger ever let you down @Kudu ?

Originally Posted by Tahr

Has the Berger ever let you down @Kudu ?

LOL...I was waiting for that question, and I know it should be a case of don't fix what aint broke. But they are the only projectile that I have used, have always wondered if there was another that would perform even better.

The Accubonds need speed to get them opening up but they do work ok when pushed fast and at moderate ranges. The Ballistic tip has been beefed up from the early days and will penetrate better than those early models. I use 180 gr BT in my 3006 and they work great, I also use the accubond as well, as they both have the same BC and look identical only one is bonded the other not , both shoot to the same point of impact also.

ones Chalk and ones One of the Best bullets ever.........

Originally Posted by Kudu

LOL...I was waiting for that question, and I know it should be a case of don't fix what aint broke. But they are the only projectile that I have used, have always wondered if there was another that would perform even better.

I'm the same. Got to fiddle.

Originally Posted by chainsaw

ah the intricacies of the english language. " as @Flyblown has stated they are a tough bonded pill."
My bad, i sued the word tough, instead of hard. LOL.

Its all good @chainsaw.

They’re not a long range pill as @Flyblown has stated they are a tough bonded pill.

Its the “long range” bit I didn’t say. No mention of the words long or range! And you are right, they certainly aren’t long range bullets.

One of the things I have never understood is the love affair some of the poms have with hard bullets for little deer. Time and time again you read or hear about roe or fallow or even muntjac shot with bullets that are designed for large medium game animals like heavy red stags, or proper big game. Hard, heavy, tough bullets I’d select if I wanted to shoot an eland. Not all the poms, but its more common than you’d think. I get that they want an exit wound in case they need to track, but they need to track as often as they do because the bullet has pencilled straight through and its run away!

There’s a vid by one of the better known roe stalkers complaining about Sierra GameKings, when he’s shooting 180gr 30 cals at roe deer, well behind the shoulder. (because they also don’t understand anatomy but that’s another story.) Both deer get knocked over, get up and hurtle off. Nuts.

Originally Posted by Kudu

Thanks. That's the sort of stuff I was after. I'm tempted to give them a go as I mainly shoot for the shoulder as well and if they are reliably accurate then that is the main point for me...not that the Bergers are un-accurate.
There was someone on this forum that had good sucsess with the ballistic Tips in their .284, But I just had some bad experiences with ballistic Tips in my 25-06 that made me wary....

Try the 110 Accubonds in your 25 06, very very impressive results

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

Try the 110 Accubonds in your 25 06, very very impressive results

Shot a lot of deer and Tahr with the 115 NBT in 25/06, never failed to kill it on the spot, 117 Prohunter never failed me either.

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

Try the 110 Accubonds in your 25 06, very very impressive results

I would have but I sold the 25-06 many years ago.

Originally Posted by Kudu

I had a look at one during the week. unfortunately to fit my mag they would have to be seated to far back in the case for my liking. So that may rule out the LRAB as well. I suppose I could try some Ballistic Tips and see how they go.....

Ive shot a few animals with both the 140 and 150nbt at moderate velocities out of a 7mm08. They work. All bang flops (or near enough) out to 350m.

The 150 would be a good match for the 284, shorter projectile than an lrab or eld x. I always found them very easy to get shooting as well

What's your max COAL kudu? I have had 150gr gk at 2.95 and currently 162 Hornady BTSP at 3.00 work well in a modded short action

Originally Posted by stevodog

What's your max COAL kudu? I have had 150gr gk at 2.95 and currently 162 Hornady BTSP at 3.00 work well in a modded short action

Its about 75mm from memory.