Whats everyones go to load for a .270 WIN for shooting big reds from 100 - 400m out of a 19 - 22 inch barrel
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Whats everyones go to load for a .270 WIN for shooting big reds from 100 - 400m out of a 19 - 22 inch barrel
140 Nosler BT or Hornady 145 eld-x
And adi 2217 powder
As above but 130gr sst or nosler BT to the mix. Powder for the 130gr reloder 26 then superformance. If they aren't available then adi powders will be, 2213sc or 2209.
For the 145gr superformance gives it extremely good velocity in a short barrel.
Factory ammo. Hard to go past any of these 3. Winchester supreme ballistic silver tips 130gr, Hornady superformance 130gr or the 145gr eldx. Any of them will do out to 600 yards.
Reloader 26 and 150 LRAB nipping on heels of 7mmRM
My go to .270win load for well over a decade (using same criteria you note) is 130gr Nosler Accubond & AR2209. Mild pressures, good velocity, consistently accurate and smacks over everything it hits.
I have a backup go to load using 130gr Sierra Gameking & RL22 which is very accurate and a relatively economic load to make.
Have always planned on working up a load using 140-145gr projectiles (like the 1240gr Nosler BT), but have never had the need given how well the above loads perform sub 400m ranges.
130gr SST, IMR 4831, starline brass, and fiocchi LR primers has given me good results. I use 55.5 grains charge weight for an extreme spread of 18fps, standard dev of 7.8fps and an average velocity of 2963fps.
I wouldn't own a .270 with less than a 22 inch barrel. Any good bullet will work. I shot a lot of 130 grain Hornady SP with 60-62 grains 2213 depending on the rifle and brass. Nowadays I would try the ELDX.
Greetings,
If I recall the best load for anything in the .270 was 60 grains of WW2 milsurp 4831 with the 130 grain projectile. I believe that this load was carved on a stone tablet and handed down from on high to Jack O'Connor.
GPM.
After much experimenting I settled on the 140gn Accubond in front of 2213sc. 24" barrel so it was going about 3000fps.
Grandpa Mac is onto it... With suppressed rifle the heavier 145_150 and up to 170 are just as nice to shoot. 60 grns is a crunch 58 much easier with ar2213 and these days the two powders are that close to the same I mix and interchange without issue because I'm below max.the 140grb Hornady boat tail soft point interlock is boringly easy to get to group,boringly easy to shoot deer deader than a dead thing too.
145gr eldx, 2213sc or 2217 powder
There is also a jack O'Connor load with 4064 that he developed before 4831 popped up. Haven't tried it but I will.
Big reds =150grn partition territory.
110gr TTSX. Dead as in very dead. This used at Tuai and Raukumaras.
Greetings @csmiffy,Quote:
Originally Posted by csmiffy
We tend to forget that before IMR4350 arrived like a thunderbolt around 1940 IMR4064 was considered a slow powder in a field of not that many powders. There was an article in a recent Handloader or Rifle about the load and there is still pressure tested modern data for IMR4064 and AR2208 available on line.
Regards Grandpamac.
Best load for 270 is load it up into the ute and dump it at the tip
Dont use a 130sst they are the worst bullet i have seen in a 270 they explode on impact and will cause a big flesh wound, a big red stag and he will run for miles with a chest/shoulder shot from one of these.
110 TTSX
Anything with RL26 in it, but shame to waste the unicorn horn dust in something that shoots rubbish bullets.
@grandpamac yup that's the one.Quote:
Originally Posted by grandpamac
There is maybe 2 or 3 modern articles about the load. Meant to reasonably accurate.
The writer was of the opinion acted opposite to what it should've done in that case size. Just can't remember which way
if you see what @crunch has put then what @EmpireSafaris has put... you see two very very different loads
both will work IF AND ONLY IF you get your shot placement right the SST will work if you use the crease shot or high in neck...high neck not ideal for big reds and crease really only a side on option
the monos ES favours do work BUT work best when encounter some resistance..EG bone to help break em up or make them work..if they zip through ribs without hitting anything on way in...well not much more resistance than a average sized hare so a pencil like effect....
the 130grn monos are worse as going slower...the 110grn tsx is the best of the barnes lot from all Ive read and seen...Xman on the 6.8 forums did an absolute shit load of mono testing a few years back,Ive followed the results closely... the 0-300 is no big deal to sort..the 300-400 is where you are going to need to be careful
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by crunch
I've heard so many guys raving about how devastating their hotshot 130 grain load is on Sika, Fallow, Reds etc. But they've only shot light framed animals. And when they poke one in to a chunky stag their light soft projectile doesn't penetrate enough to take out the vitals.
This isn't confined to the 270 either.
My go too load for the last 30 years has been 53-54gr of ar2209 with a 130gr projectile. With 130s I just never seemed to get the advertised results using 2213.
Sounds more like a gut or brisket shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7mmwsm
If you can poke a knife into it's chest cavity, penetration from a rifle bullet isn't the issue, it's shot placement.
Or 280AI it :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sakoswarosorted
Sounds like you don't understand projectile construction and intended application. Just like the guys I was talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by caberslash
Take a look on some ammunition packets (Winchester). They give little pictures of what they recommend that load for. Reasonably sound advice. Which if people took note of there would a lot less debate about projectile performance, or Attachment 254131lack of.
As I typed earlier.you got sst or something really soft in rifle you got to slip it in the crease or head/neck shoot. Neck is NOT recommended for worked up stags,never has been for as long as I can remember for the same reasons. Not a hell of a lot different to carrying the smaller .224s with lighter constructed projectiles, you just have to place that tiny pill in a vulnerable soft place.....
I shoot a lot of 130SST superperformance in 270. It's accurate and knocks deer over so fast you may miss them dropping if you blink. I have never had any issues with the SST on any animal.
I’ve loaded for quite a few .270 barrels. At 53-54 gns my exp is your only getting 2850-2900 with a 130 if it has a long throat and 22 inch tube.Quote:
Originally Posted by whanahuia
If the same barrel you need 62-63 gns of 2213 to crack 3000 fps and 55-56 of 2209.
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Mid you 2850 with a good 130 is generally enough!
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Yup I sure the deer read the packets...Quote:
Originally Posted by 7mmwsm
Yeah, Ive always used 24 inch barrels in 270. Its where you get the best from them. My current one is getting 3130 with 54gr which im happy with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dicko
Geez there is a lot of misinformation out there.
People must hear of the time a mate of their mates brother's uncle lost one with a 130gr sst, wasn't shot placement at all, bloody thing blew up :ORLY:
They work fine, so do most 130gr.
As for barrel length were the Duley's not getting over 2900fps with an 18" barrel and 145gr eldx. Without crunching the numbers that will probably take you to 700 odd yards energy wise.
Shorter barrel is fine, just move with the times and use a modern powders and if you still aren't achieving velocity use a softer projectile. That goes for any caliber.
Everything is not equal though. I know enough about reloading to know I will struggle to get the results Duleys do. Why? Because like most Im not in a position to have all the knowledge and equipment to the same quality as them. I also dont have the preparedness to get and use the powders they are consistently.
Will that 18 inch barrel achieve the same with factory loads?
Simplicity is an underrated avenue when everyone wants to compare the spectacular.
This is simplicity, a 24 inch barrelled 270 with a time worn load of 4350 or 4831-In An AR powder thats the same or equivalent, that you can reliably get either through a shop or trade me or here, because its common. Has been used to get the required velocities for probably close to 60-80 years and there is plenty of data for. That I can load without having to guess or go too close to over pressure and finds load that will work with little fuss.
I believe they were using due to sponsorship criteria the 145grn superpreformance factory load.... and hands down the .270 was the BEST option with those criteria LMFAO...
Superformance dosent do the 145 as far as I know. It could be precision hunter, but thats the performance levels they advertise out of a 24 inch barrel. SO is it going to be common to achieve such results? Or once again exceptional/spectacular?
NZ Hunter load.
Norma brass
Fed 210 primer
Hodgdon Superformance
57-58gr
145eldx 2900-2950fps
18” barrel
DPT Mk2
Thats an interesting load and im thinking of working up a load for myself with that projectile. So might just try get some superformance and see how it gos in a 24 inch barrel. If its suitable.Quote:
Originally Posted by rimubay
I’ve move to 24 inch tubes also. Totally agree with your comments re common powders. If I want to hot rod Rl 26 or 22 will drive 140 and 150 gn pills at 3000 or a bit better.
However there will be no more Alliant powder shipments so good to have good loads with adi powders.
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