Thread: Bombs for Black Beauty

Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg

So you didn't get it with the rifle & the bullets that came with it ?

Negative. At least I don't recall anything in there! Just boom stick, dies, ammo and bolt and heaps of rags

i would say factory ammo can be a bench mark for how the rifle shoots. when things arnt going/grouping well. its a way to rule out your hand load. then re-load that brass.

[QUOTE=bully;91799]i would say factory ammo can be a bench mark for how the rifle shoots. when things arnt going/grouping well. its a way to rule out your hand load. then re-load that brass.[/QUOTE

Firstly the ammo supplied with the rifle needs to be used at a range to determine the new rifle owners accuracy level, use that ammo up then get someone competent to make more.

The rifles owner may be a 1 moa shot with 1/2 moa ammo, and thats good, more practise needed.

Bully, factory ammo is not a benchmark for anything. Its too variable and general in its intent.

A handload with known recorded assembly measurements and accuracy levels developed for a particular rifle is your benchmark.

You can strive to meet that benchmark as you develop and learn as a reloader, then as your skill progress you can try to improve on that benchmark by superfine tuning that ammo.

Originally Posted by 7mmsaum

Bully, factory ammo is not a benchmark for anything. Its too variable and general in its intent.

Factory ammo is a benchmark to see if you bought the correct caliber boolit to match your rifle

Also as a macro level headspace check, but that's about it

Does also give you some starting numbers speed wise for comparison...

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Originally Posted by bully

i would say factory ammo can be a bench mark for how the rifle shoots. when things arnt going/grouping well. its a way to rule out your hand load. then re-load that brass.[/QUOTE

Firstly the ammo supplied with the rifle needs to be used at a range to determine the new rifle owners accuracy level, use that ammo up then get someone competent to make more.

The rifles owner may be a 1 moa shot with 1/2 moa ammo, and thats good, more practise needed.

Bully, factory ammo is not a benchmark for anything. Its too variable and general in its intent.

A handload with known recorded assembly measurements and accuracy levels developed for a particular rifle is your benchmark.

You can strive to meet that benchmark as you develop and learn as a reloader, then as your skill progress you can try to improve on that benchmark by superfine tuning that ammo.

when i typed my message there was no load data for the rifle.(we must have been typing at the same time) most people buying a rifle doesnt come with load data.
if they shoot some factory ammo and note how it shoots. then for example... one day there trying a new load or development thinking this should be shooting better, maybe its the rifle, scope mounts are loose or something, or is it my load? rule out the load by shooting the factory ammo, the shooter can now go back to a reference point.
this is what a new reloader with a new rifle could do, instead of pulling her hair out changing hand load measurments etc, when all along the scope mounts were loose.

[QUOTE=bully;91871]

Originally Posted by 7mmsaum

when i typed my message there was no load data for the rifle.(we must have been typing at the same time) most people buying a rifle doesnt come with load data.
if they shoot some factory ammo and note how it shoots. then for example... one day there trying a new load or development thinking this should be shooting better, maybe its the rifle, scope mounts are loose or something, or is it my load? rule out the load by shooting the factory ammo, the shooter can now go back to a reference point.
this is what a new reloader with a new rifle could do, instead of pulling her hair out changing hand load measurments etc, when all along the scope mounts were loose.

Thanks for that explanation Bully, i now understand what you are saying.