Thread: Brass damage ?? Help

Would put money on it being Hornady lack of quality control, their brass seems to be undersize quite often, which makes it look like excess headspace - seen it in several calibers now. Someone at the range just the other day was having this issue but with 300blk. I've had it in 7x64 (not leaking primers fortunately). Likely your rifle is fine, especially if it looks ok with Winchester. They make good projs, but I'll give their ammo a miss from now on, not that I use factory stuff often fortunately.

Bolt etching is annoying rather than a real mechanical issue, but still hit them up about it. Like others have said it wasn't like that before, so why should you be stuck with it like that now?

Originally Posted by pepper123

Yea well the guys in the shop ran the vernier over the used brass and unused rounds and they were pretty concerned so I'll b getting a good checkup


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Maybe overlength cases pinching the projectiles?

Originally Posted by keneff

..There can be a price to pay for snug headspacing...

All headspacing is snug- by necessity.

Maybe you actually mean something else?

Originally Posted by 6x47

All headspacing is snug- by necessity.

Maybe you actually mean something else?

Yep @6x47. Actually meant too- tight headspacing. (Too little?) Thanks for pulling me up.

Is this an X Bolt? Be an interesting outcome for sure, please keep us informed as I would be actually more surprised if it is an ammo issue rather than a mechanical/ rifle issue. As already mentioned hit up the store with questions and write the replies down: questions re who pays from now onwards re gunsmith, who pays for the damage to the bolt, who replaces the ammo etc.
Just ask them mate, tick them boxes.


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Originally Posted by Danny

Is this an X Bolt? Be an interesting outcome for sure, please keep us informed as I would be actually more surprised if it is an ammo issue rather than a mechanical/ rifle issue. As already mentioned hit up the store with questions and write the replies down: questions re who pays from now onwards re gunsmith, who pays for the damage to the bolt, who replaces the ammo etc.
Just ask them mate, tick them boxes.


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Yes I will keep everyone updated, can I ask why you would be surprised if it is the ammunition that is the problem? And you think it might be the rifle ? Yes it is a new x bolt and went well with the Winchester ammunition


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Originally Posted by Danny

Is this an X Bolt? Be an interesting outcome for sure, please keep us informed as I would be actually more surprised if it is an ammo issue rather than a mechanical/ rifle issue. As already mentioned hit up the store with questions and write the replies down: questions re who pays from now onwards re gunsmith, who pays for the damage to the bolt, who replaces the ammo etc.
Just ask them mate, tick them boxes.


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That's an interesting take Danny. It looked like most of his empties were OK with only a few over pressure. Could it be that the head space is too tight in the rifle and ammo within acceptable limits and variability???

OH yes and Winchester shoots fine...

Originally Posted by 300CALMAN

That's an interesting take Danny. It looked like most of his empties were OK with only a few over pressure. Could it be that the head space is too tight in the rifle and ammo within acceptable limits and variability???

OH yes and Winchester shoots fine...

Yeh that's my line of thought.
...the obvious money is on the Hornady ammunition after the readings from the likes of @7x64 and co's experiences however.

Yes it will be interesting to see. I guess there is a fair bit of variability in factory ammo. I thought though that Browning were generally more than ok with quality control BUT even the best can have a bad day...

I fail to see how to tight a headspace can cause massive overpreassure and primer failure?
I dont size my brass till it is difficult to close the bolt IE negative headspace it is a head pressfit and only have pressure problems when I push too hard or when Hornady change batch of Superformance powder....Had to drop a full grain to get back to safe....they have large batch variation and I would say that is likely the fault here.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

I fail to see how to tight a headspace can cause massive overpreassure and primer failure?
I dont size my brass till it is difficult to close the bolt IE negative headspace it is a head pressfit and only have pressure problems when I push too hard or when Hornady change batch of Superformance powder....Had to drop a full grain to get back to safe....they have large batch variation and I would say that is likely the fault here.

Yes that's where I would put my money.

I have had to deal with a similar case as this some time ago. Steves wholesale were great and had things sorted very fast .

Originally Posted by Clint Ruin

I have had to deal with a similar case as this some time ago. Steves wholesale were great and had things sorted very fast .

Was there any repairs needed or anything got replaced in rifle ?


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Replaced it from memory.

Steves are good to deal with. Far better then many I could mention .

Did you buy the Browning off Hamills as well as the ammo??
If so, I'd be inclined to hand the whole kit back to Stacey and ask him to sort it all out...expecting a new rifle to be blunt.
None of this is okay, and while not even indirectly any fault of Stacey or Hamills, the import distributors have an obligation to make this right, in the name of safety if not just fairness.
Good luck mate and please keep us posted.


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