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    Quote Originally Posted by stug View Post
    Your boltface has been etched hasn't it? I have second hand rifle that have shot hundreds of rounds and none have an etched bolt face. A friend bought a second hand 375 H&H with an etched boltface (that was not as bad as yours), he paid about $400 less than you would expect for the rifle
    All used browning x bolts have this etching from the precision headspace this is what 2 shops and the gunsmith have told me . And both shops showed me examples of there second hand x bolts .


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    Quote Originally Posted by pepper123 View Post
    All used browning x bolts have this etching from the precision headspace this is what 2 shops and the gunsmith have told me . And both shops showed me examples of there second hand x bolts .


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    Is this a joke?
    'Etching from precision headspace'
    I'll make sure I get the gunsmith to build my next custom with non precision/sloppy headspace so I don't get bolt etching

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSL View Post
    Is this a joke?
    'Etching from precision headspace'
    I'll make sure I get the gunsmith to build my next custom with non precision/sloppy headspace so I don't get bolt etching
    I'm guessing everyone on this forum are gunsmiths? Lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by pepper123 View Post
    I'm guessing everyone on this forum are gunsmiths? Lol


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    Na, you have missed the point mate, these guys are trying to tell you that etching on the bolt face is not normal but hey as long as you're happy with a box of ammo then best of luck to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wsm junkie View Post
    Na, you have missed the point mate, these guys are trying to tell you that etching on the bolt face is not normal but hey as long as you're happy with a box of ammo then best of luck to you.
    Lol mate do me a favour and go check out some second hand x bolts . Take a few pics and post them here and if they don't have etching I'll eat a whole couch . Lol . Should I have dropped off my rifle to you for inspection?


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    Quote Originally Posted by pepper123 View Post
    Lol mate do me a favour and go check out some second hand x bolts . Take a few pics and post them here and if they don't have etching I'll eat a whole couch . Lol . Should I have dropped off my rifle to you for inspection?


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    You have been conned and now have become the internet expert you are wanking on about.

    Every second hand xbolt has etching. ba ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.



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    Quote Originally Posted by veitnamcam View Post
    You have been conned and now have become the internet expert you are wanking on about.

    Every second hand xbolt has etching ba ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.



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    Go look for yourself dickhead . Your the biggest expert around. Go fucken look instead of sitting behind a computer. You asked to get it checked and so I did pretty thoroughly and now u can't handle that u were wrong u stubborn faggot . I've got actual proof mate and all you have is your know it all shit for brain . Ha ha ha


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    Quote Originally Posted by veitnamcam View Post
    You have been conned and now have become the internet expert you are wanking on about.

    Every second hand xbolt has etching. ba ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.



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    And why the fuck would 2 different shops and a gunsmith all try con me when there is literally nothing in it for them ?? You sir are a super douche know it all lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by pepper123 View Post
    I'm guessing everyone on this forum are gunsmiths? Lol


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    Mate I gave you my best advise based on being a Professional Engineer (Toolmaker) with many associated engineering qualifications to my name including a very good knowledge and understanding of fits and finishes and metallurgy, a Firearms Collector and a Reloader with over 40 years experience, based on the evidence you presented me with.

    And while I respect the opinion your chosen gunsmith has given you based on examining your rifle, something which I haven't, I do agree with the general opinion given here.

    The etching on the bolt face is not normal and while it maybe cosmetic it will have an effect on the resale value of this firearm as it indicates that the rifle has been exposed to over pressure loads at some stage during its life.

    And whoever told you "All X-Bolts have etched bolt faces due to the precision head spacing" plainly has very little knowledge of what causes this etching.

    There is no question in my mind that will diminish the resale value of your rifle.

    The guys in the gun stores are salespeople, I'm an engineer so it would be expected that we would differ in our opinions
    based on our knowledge, experience and perspective.

    Especially if a liability exists.

    That said if your happy with the response you have been given from the gunshop and the box of ammo then End of Story as that's your business.

    Calling people here that have tried to help and that I respect names is just mean spirited and way out of line.

    For that alone I won't be willing to help you out any more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P38 View Post
    @pepper123

    Mate I gave you my best advise based on being a Professional Engineer (Toolmaker) with many associated engineering qualifications to my name including a very good knowledge and understanding of fits and finishes and metallurgy, a Firearms Collector and a Reloader with over 40 years experience, based on the evidence you presented me with.

    And while I respect the opinion your chosen gunsmith has given you based on examining your rifle, something which I haven't, I do agree with the general opinion given here.

    The etching on the bolt face is not normal and while it maybe cosmetic it will have an effect on the resale value of this firearm as it indicates that the rifle has been exposed to over pressure loads at some stage during its life.

    And whoever told you "All X-Bolts have etched bolt faces due to the precision head spacing" plainly has very little knowledge of what causes this etching.

    There is no question in my mind that will diminish the resale value of your rifle.

    The guys in the gun stores are salespeople, I'm an engineer so it would be expected that we would differ in our opinions
    based on our knowledge, experience and perspective.

    Especially if a liability exists.

    That said if your happy with the response you have been given from the gunshop and the box of ammo then End of Story as that's your business.

    Calling people here that have tried to help and that I respect names is just mean spirited and way out of line.

    For that alone I won't be willing to help you out any more.

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    Pete
    Yea a qualified this and a qualified that like everyone else . I didn't ask for your help . It was all good until everyone made out like the rifle was a throwaway. Then obviously all the experts have piped up . Stating there huge qualifications over a bit of etching on a bolt . I couldn't give a fuck all I wanted to know if the rifle was ok. I'm not going to go out of my way to get a replacement bolt over a bit of etching .


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    Quote Originally Posted by P38 View Post
    @pepper123

    Mate I gave you my best advise based on being a Professional Engineer (Toolmaker) with many associated engineering qualifications to my name including a very good knowledge and understanding of fits and finishes and metallurgy, a Firearms Collector and a Reloader with over 40 years experience, based on the evidence you presented me with.

    And while I respect the opinion your chosen gunsmith has given you based on examining your rifle, something which I haven't, I do agree with the general opinion given here.

    The etching on the bolt face is not normal and while it maybe cosmetic it will have an effect on the resale value of this firearm as it indicates that the rifle has been exposed to over pressure loads at some stage during its life.

    And whoever told you "All X-Bolts have etched bolt faces due to the precision head spacing" plainly has very little knowledge of what causes this etching.

    There is no question in my mind that will diminish the resale value of your rifle.

    The guys in the gun stores are salespeople, I'm an engineer so it would be expected that we would differ in our opinions
    based on our knowledge, experience and perspective.

    Especially if a liability exists.

    That said if your happy with the response you have been given from the gunshop and the box of ammo then End of Story as that's your business.

    Calling people here that have tried to help and that I respect names is just mean spirited and way out of line.

    For that alone I won't be willing to help you out any more.

    Cheers
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