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I check case length at each reloading. It's a real quick job with the Lyman EeZee gauge (or some name like that). My 243 Norma brass needs trimming after 2-3 loadings from new, the 308 Lapua after 5+, but the 308 PPU brass needs trimming after it's first firing as factory ammo.