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Have now dropped 3 reds with the 162eldm and all 3 were bang flops 2 through the shoulder and 1 through the neck all at 200 yards give or take, pretty pleased with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mooseman
I have however had the house to myself today so loaded up a ladder of 168gn bergers to try out when the weather clears.
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@dannyb ive got 14 175gr berger elite hunters if you want something else to tinker with....
Thanks for the offer I'll see how these bad boys go first :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by wsm junkie
For anyone wondering I have shot a few deer with the 180 eldm out of my rem mag. Very pleased so far. Shot a red hind at 742 yards in the shoulders she never took another step. Ill keep running them to see how they perform on a few more deer
I have found the 180 eldm to give far more consistent results at various ranges than the 162s and 168s of the above mentioned.
My 2c, dont assume .02" off the lands is the best for precision. VLD shooters are finding out that not all benchrest trends cross over to LR setups. I found some of my most accurate nodes were way back beyond .05" so its worth doing a full seating test plus using a decent gauge to find realtime distance to your lands. After firing say 200 you need to confirm it or adjust for any erosion. Point is you will use this guage many more times than just once.
Totally, I have started at 15thou off the lands and will see how that goes, if no joy then i will go the full seating depth test.
This is really just something to play around with, my eldm load is more than adequate for the hunting I do and unless the VLDS shoot better than I probably won't muck around with them to much.
So the berger 168gn VLDH didn't shoot better than 1 moa or there abouts but I was pretty lazy and just seated them all at the same depth then just did a ladder of different charge weights so serves me right.
What I did notice was I got better speeds with less or the same powder than the 162gn eldm's is this normal ?
Didn't write any down as I was disgusted with only 1 moa groups :D
Anyway I've decided to scratch the 180gn itch and bought some 180gn VLDH Bergers to try out.....watch this space
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.....what can I say I'm a BC slut :thumbsup:
Following with interest @dannyb
you really need to try the 140 grain noslers @dannyb.
Plenty of time for that mateQuote:
Originally Posted by gonetropo
i have a few loaded up if you want to tryQuote:
Originally Posted by dannyb
I think I coughed up my arsehole seeing the price of them... STREWTH!!!
Partitions or bergers ? Once a load is developed I'd be lucky to use 20 a year so the cost is not really a factor too much :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by A330driver
The 7mm jobs
Well had some spare time so have loaded up a ladder of berger bombs to try at the range tomorrow.
Below is a 180gn VLDH behind a 162gn ELDM man I love the mag on this 85 action so much room.
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Not much room for bigger cal :thumbsup:
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All set for some range time tomorrow....
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Well busy day on the range today a few rifles to sort unfortunately I forgot the ammo for one of them :D
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Better results with the 180gn bergers too, not quite there but better and some direction at least for the fiddler in me :D
The speed I was able to push these heavy slippery slugs at was quite surprising.
Went to about 1/2 a grain over book max and got better speed than my 162gn eldm load.
No signs of pressure at all, no sticky bolt, primers looked good, no ejector marks nothing at all.
I don't see the need to push them any harder but I will be playing with the seating depth and trying my best load from this ladder again as I can't be sure I didn't muff one.
Here's my ladder and the speeds I got off the magneto speed chrono.
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As you can see some very consistent speeds at the higher charge weight end of the ladder
The groups aren't that impressive and I didn't take a pic of the first group as it was pretty average in line with the rest...
I have numbered the rest from 2 to 8 as per the list in the book on the previous post.
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Group #6 was by far the best with group #7 giving the most consistent speed.
Group 6 there is a possiblity I may have muffed 1 but I was very careful to wait between shots so the barrel didn't get too hot.
I'm going to load some more at the same charge as group #6 and also try different seating depths.
This ladder was all seated at 10thou jammed into the lands.
Anyone else got any suggestions ?
Just to be sure after all the shooting I checked my zero with my 162gn eldm load....it's bloody hard to beat and prints groups like this with boring regularity.
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Gotta be happy those speeds, out of interest have you found the magneto chrony to have any effect on your group sizes an impact point?
None whatsoeverQuote:
Originally Posted by Ham 7mm
Really? I had a full 10inch shift using mine on my 6.5x47? On a fairly rigid barrel too.Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyb
can't say I've ever noticed any difference at all ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stocky
Very useful information! Thanks for sharing with us @dannyb.
I am shooting a tikka 300wsm with 208eldm and a 284 win with 162 eldx. I just got myself a 22 inches barrel 7mm rem mag Sako 85. So I am doing a bit of research of 7mm mag load data. What Projectile and powder do you end up with? Cheers
162gn eldm and adi 2225 powder with norma brass and cci large rifle magnum primers, have shot 4 deer now with that load from 150 yards out to 370yards so not really a test but all have been bang flops none have taken a single step :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rock
Awesome!! How’s the 180s going? I may scratch that itch sooner or later lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyb
Haven't had a chance to do any more load developement, gonna hold off at the moment with powder getting hard to come byQuote:
Originally Posted by Rock
One more question! Do you use specific seating die for Berger vld projectile? Cheers!Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyb
Just the standard hornandy one that came with my diesQuote:
Originally Posted by Rock
Try jumping them. I use the 180vldh in my practical, 60thou jump and 1/2” all day if I do my bit. Also was using the 168vldh in my mod 7 saum, mag fit so the jump must be quite large, still very accurateQuote:
Originally Posted by dannyb
Cheers
That's the plan with my best charge weight, will try different jump and then if no joy start over with 2217 powderQuote:
Originally Posted by jono7
I use 2217 in the practical 3015 with no pressure and low es.
Cheers
