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Thread: Cutting Edge Bullets.

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    Cutting Edge Bullets.

    There seems to be a bit of confusion lately about these pills & their performance.
    I have fired over 1000 of these bullets now so to be fair I know a bit more than most about them.
    I have shot the 420 & 446 in my 416 Barrett.
    330,350,375,377,400,402 & 425s in my 375 Rum Imp, 375 Terminator & 375 DCM.
    They are a bore rider design, the bearing surface is constant unlike conventional pills.
    The increase in weight is in the bore rider length.
    What I have found is the speed degrades/increases very little between weights approx 50-100fps unlike conventional pills.
    Also the amount of powder reduction/increase between weights is also small, generally 1-3 grains depending on the case & powder used.
    As the BC increases the speed decreases at approximately the same rate making them basically ballistic siblings.
    The heavy pills still have the edge, just, but it is a very small advantage.
    I have found, the advertised BCs aren't that far off the mark.
    They appear to be very accurate & easy to tune.
    They are a monolithic soft copper bullet with a small hollow point in some of the weights.
    I haven't shot enough animals with them to come to any meaning full conclusions about terminal performance.

    If you hit bone it is ALL OVER



    Also if you hit the stomach they will split from tip to base into several big bits

    Left to right bits of a .375 400 CE pill, a 400 CE pill, 300 Berger OTM, .284, 162 Amax, .264, 140 Amax
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    Why don't the big ones have the red tips?
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    Re: Cutting Edge Bullets.

    Quote Originally Posted by Toby View Post
    Why don't the big ones have the red tips?
    Coz the smaller ones are amaxs... Only the 400gr is a ce in that pic

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    But wouldn't the plastic tip help it a bit being on the big one
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toby View Post
    But wouldn't the plastic tip help it a bit being on the big one
    what the fuck
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    I dont know how else to put it, I thought for long range shooting and stuff that the plastic tip thingys help alot so why dont the big projectiles have them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toby View Post
    I dont know how else to put it, I thought for long range shooting and stuff that the plastic tip thingys help alot so why dont the big projectiles have them?
    CE have been asked to do a ballistic quite a few times I have been informed.
    They have looked at it & won't rule it out in the future, but it won't be happening in the short term IIRC

    The plastic tip will increase production costs, which will in turn create market resistance, is part of their thinking.
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    It seems they are quite alot more malable than pills such as the barnes or the gmxs greg?
    Be interesting if you could post a side by side conparison of your lineup of CE 375 pills

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldbob View Post
    It seems they are quite alot more malable than pills such as the barnes or the gmxs greg?
    Be interesting if you could post a side by side conparison of your lineup of CE 375 pills
    Yep they appear to be softer but the nose cavity is about 1 x 9 mm so alot smaller than the GMX or TTSX etc.

    I will put a pick up when I get a chance to dig them out
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    As requested a pic of some pills including the CE ones



    From left to right

    .204, 40 Vmax, .224 75 Amax, 90 Berger, .264 140 Amax, .284 162 Amax, 180 Berger Hybrid, .308, 208 Amax, 230 Berger OTM, 230 Berger VLD, .338 300 SMK, 300 Berger OTM, .375 SMK, 330 CE, 350 CE, 375 CE, 400 CE, 425 CE, 20 Tac, .416, 450 Hornady Match, 420 CE, 446 CE, 420 SP GS, 416 Predator, 450 Rocky Mountain, 435 Lehigh, .510 645 Lehigh, The fastest of the lot .224 30 MEF Berger, & the biggest of the lot 14.5mm 1085 grains

    I have missed a fair few out.... Bugger, hind sight gotta love it....
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    Damn
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    Your a madman greg

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldbob View Post
    Your a madman greg
    You Know It LOL

    I probably should line up all the pills in my drawer
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    I could easily have that on a canvas on my wall KG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neckshot View Post
    I could easily have that on a canvas on my wall KG
    what should we stat the bidding at haha

 

 

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