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Hi All,
Im looking at upgrading my Hornady L&L AP for a dillon 1050, my main driver is the ability to be able to swage on the press with all this crimped 223 brass around.
Are they all they are cracked up to be? $2500 is a lot of press and you will obviously need to shoot a lot to make it worth while, I guess I am hoping to upgrade to something top of the line and hope it will last me forever.
Where are the cheapest place to get them? local or import?
Hi Fletch,
What were you thinking of swaging? I,ve seen afew youtube vids (by Edge company) on converting empty 22 shells to 224 cal projectiles which were done on a standard RCBS rockchucker press without the need for an expensive Dillion & the pressure excerted for the 3 different stages would be considerable. It's somthing I'm REALLY keen on doing as I love using as much of any cartridges lying about (including berdan primed) as I can but getting the dies from the States for this conversion is expensive. For the extra cost of the Dillons gear it's just not worth it for me. ------Phil.
A 1050 seems a little OTT at $2500 for personal use. I think our club has a 650 fully kitted out and a fair bit of club ammo on it every week.
I have made a few thousand .223 on a mates 1050 and it is truly a pleasure to use, but it's very slow to change calibers compared to a 650etc so he has another press to do everything else on.
It is very fast to use when you add on all the extra gizmos but the cost go's thru the roof! The ammo that comes off it is as good as I can make on a single stage press.
The primer swaging is awesome!
It's worth keeping in mind that it does not have the same warranty as the other Dillon presses.
I plan to buy one as I shoot a lot of 223 so the time saving is worth more to me than the cost of buying one. If I had not been spoiled buy using one I doubt I could justify the cost.
Just my opinion, you'd be better off buying the Super Swage 600 and a Dillon 650 and save yourself some considerable coin.
The 650 turns out great 223 ammo.
Yeah I have a hornady progressive now and it loads fine, its just a pain to have to add a second task to swage the primer pocket on 1000x 223 brass when it can be done on the press.
I could spend $200 on a super swage, but maybe its worth putting the money up front and getting a press that does it all.
I didnt know the warranty was different, the warranty on my Hornday is Awesome and top marks to them for it.
They consider it to be a commercial press so expect it to be run all day every day.Quote:
Originally Posted by FletchNZ
Pm Herbmister on sportshooter to have a good chat about the ins and outs-it's his I have used
I've got a 1050 for 9mm, and the swaging thing is great. Some 9mm smg rounds have the primer crimp & the 1050 just rolls them on thru.
But I load a lot of 9mm, it is a lot of money for a 223 loader & you don't want to be changing calibre.
I use a 650 & separate Dillon swager for 223 & it's not a big deal.
But if you have $ they are quick!
Whats your guys opinion on a Dillon 550B, is it a progressive press and does it have the swager as mentioned in above posts? Cheers
I think he means the primer pocket swager facility on the 1050,not swaging bullets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tararua Phil
I'll let you know when I get mine sorted...its in the bnib in the garageQuote:
Originally Posted by k30
Ive looked at the 550B and that and the Hornady lock'n'load AP would be possibilities, 550B is a lot cheaper than the Hornady AP. I have had a Lee progressive and it was awful, probably because it wasnt man enough for large caliber rifle cases, for pistol its probably OK.
My club got given a ex demo Hornady lock-n-load AP so Im going to give it a go on .223 (when I get an Ar15) and see what I think.
There has been a 1050 on trade me on and off set up for 223 for about $2K I think.
I reload my 223 on one of my Dillon 550B. I have a Dillon 600 super swage to sort the primer pockets.
If you load 10K plus rounds a year get the 1050.
If you load 5K plus rounds a year get the 650 and the super swage.
Anything less get the 550B and the super swage.
Yeah I saw that 1050 on tm, for that price you might has well spend $200 more you might as well buy new in box
45South has one (I think) that he was trying to sell. New, 2nd hand (not used AFAIK). Might be worth sending a PM to him?
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Marky123Quote:
Originally Posted by marky123
I'm hoping your going to set that baby up for 223 so we can put it through it's paces. :thumbsup:
You never know I might even take a walk on the wild side and convert over from Red to Blue ;)
Cheers
Pete
550b=$775 complete
650 =$999 + casefeeder =$500
1050 =eek
I set it up and reloaded 97 rounds in 2hours 37 minutes(550) which I thought was good considering the joke instruction pamphlet.
308 kit next pete but I reckon I could use the 9mm shellplate and a homemade 223 powder die...
Were you dropping your charges by hand?
You should be able to pump out 300-600 rounds an hour without to much trouble with a 550B.
that was the first time I set it up,I thought it was good.I'll do better next time sorry....:)
Yeah don't feel bad Mark.Quote:
Originally Posted by marky123
I've spent 4 or 5 hours at the loading bench and only loaded 20 or so rounds ........ had a bloody good time doing it too.
Cheers
Pete
So where is the cheapest place either local or international to get a Dillion 600 Super swager?
The 1050 is overkill for what I do.
serious shooters
+1, when pricing up dillion I found Richard got his price to the same/better than I could import myself for. And given all the support he gives shooting sports I'm happy to support him