If no one buys, they'll be forced to drop prices.
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If no one buys, they'll be forced to drop prices.
Yes it’s true, and can work very well. But the retailers don’t catch the drift even though it’s obvious and discussed in front of them ever day. They will automatically think - oh people aren’t buying these anymore, I won’t order those again!Quote:
Originally Posted by Three O'Three
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That’s a great idea really!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cigar
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That's a cunning plan! Peterson brass makes quite a few cartridges in SRP format. Starline does a couple too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cigar
It is but still cost you the brass, primers and more powder to re do the load. There are LRP around, you just need to ask the right people. Just scored 2 bricks for retail.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steelisreal
Another record set for the not so good of the hobby. Mate sent me this deal of the year. We live in troubled times haha
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You have to keep it in perspective. Most people have bigger things to worry about. Half a dozen people dead and missing. 1000's displaced from their homes. 1000's of businesses ruined. And here we are hand wringing over the price of a 100 primers.
Sad yes, bloody crazy even. But not relative mate. I could bring up the holocaust if you like? And we can debate all day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
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Grow up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burb122
Godwins Law.
Shit even covid numbers if you like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
This thread is to highlight the stupidity of humans. And there seems to be a few here and out there!
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Flip that. Your the one deviating like a child.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
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[QUOTE=Burb122;1415957]Another record set for the not so good of the hobby. Mate sent me this deal of the year. We live in troubled times haha
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Not actually the case, autobid gone wrong and buyer walked away with more than one tray
[QUOTE=Hunterdave;1417378]Still a distasteful feat either way. There’s been a few good bastards selling some “new era” retail priced primers on here atm which is good to see!Quote:
Originally Posted by Burb122
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Shit I just sold some for $15 a box😳😳Quote:
Originally Posted by Burb122
That just makes you a GC:thumbsup:
(you forgot a bit Tahr...)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
hand wringing over the price of a 100 primers... that no one is being forced to buy.
I sort of agree Burb, it's shit, but humans have been fucking over fellow humans for centuries, and sadly that's not likely to change any time soon.
Let's not get started on the inequities of the construction industry... or the food supply chain... or the military industrial complex (see Why We Fight - 2005 doco)... or The Lightbulb Conspiracy (YouTube)... Reckon we'd hit 100 pages on the thread quick smart.
Learned a few things from this thread:
1. Some people think selling things for more than you bought them for is grossly unfair/borderline criminal.
2. Some people think it's totally fine.
3. Some people could not give a flying farnarkle.
4. Sometimes can people can be saying similar things in a different way, and still disagree with each other.
5. My 5th form economics teacher, Mr Barry, was right after all, when saying that the market will pay what they think something is worth, given some various relevant factors, and blah, blah, blah (or something like that... I failed economics)
6. Fark, I forgot what lesson 6 was, can't have been important.
I have been mostly chuckling away to this thread, pondering whether the person who bought the 100 primers is aware of this raging debate. Maybe they are also insulted at having to pay that price, but really needed/wanted them and just though fuck it? Or maybe they are someone who has just got into it, don't mind paying that price per primer, and are utterly oblivious to the 'good ol' days' of primer prices that have been impacted by far-off wars, global pandemics and the like? Or maybe they walk among us, but feel like they can't own up to their crime for fear of retribution or banishment, chased down by hoardes of folk carrying pitchforks and keyboards? (it wasn't me, okay?) Who knows. Or cares?
Wow, that was a lot of thinking and typing. Reckon I might go have a beer.
Gunworks have large rifle primers in stock tomorrow see below
Great news, arriving tomorrow afternoon (as long as the truck doesn’t breakdown) Fiocchi large rifle primers $30 per tray of 150, no limits, we can freight to a south island non rural address for $20.
If you would like to backorder email us (please don’t ring us) the following:
Name:
Mobile number:
Address (if posting out):
Quantity 1 tray (150), 2 trays (300), 3 trays (450) etc
We will only hold unpaid orders until 6pm Tuesday 28 February 2023
If you don’t want Fiocchi, we are expecting RWS mid year and Expansion end of this year – Federal and CCI have no eta and could be years away for all we know as the manufacturer won’t commit to a timeframe.
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At the risk of being pounced on by a few of you hotheads -
The price of ammo has gone up, initially from supply failing to meet demand: correct. The other side of the coin however is, we have a somewhat smallish demographic of folks who have a large sum of disposable income who purchase incredibly large swathes of ammo at the inflated prices. Suppliers have now been taught that people will pay the inflated rates, despite the costs associated with buying the product having come down. Between that and price fixing the bulk of folks will purchase less ammo, and the wealthy guys on here who love to point out how great this is won't care and never have. For folks like myself, I have stopped buying ammo for over a year, I have 14 or so rifles plus a few shotguns and eventually I will just leave the sport. I suspect there will be quite a number like me, so as the numbers dwindle we'll see how that pans out for future legislation and the health of the sport etc. What has saved us for years has been our large number. Personally I see ammo prices continuing to rise, despite small reprieves every now and then.
you can call me a Karen or a Communist (despite being neither) if you like, I see both sides of the argument, my concern is a runaway escalation in either direction should make us pause to reflect rather than panic.
The price of metal went up
The price of fuel did too
This increased the cost of freighting anything anywhere
Then there was a pandemic
Then a war broke out
So here we are.Wages havn't caught up with inflation and NZ hasnt gotten any closer to where ammo or components are made.
Sounds complicated. LOL.Quote:
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Looks like Gunworks have dealt to the primer supply and demand issue. In the SI at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by TeRei
I bought some Fiocchi primers this morning from Collings and Brady in Carterton - Large rifle in trays of 150 for $27 each from memory, they have stock but it's moving
He said that they are getting shipments in soon from the new Texan outfit starting up so it looks like the drought has broken around here
I was watching some on trademe but was on nightshift last night and forgot all about them, 1500 went for $205. Seems everyone else did too as the last bid was on Sunday night
Overall it looks like prices have ticked up but supply is coming backQuote:
Originally Posted by charliehorse
blah blah "the new normal" etc
I can live with $200 to $250 for 1000 ok, 1000 is a lot of primers
PRIMERS.
Seems that perhaps later this year a new player will be pumping them out faster than the groom on his wedding night.
https://youtu.be/ef6eFfw222U
When will they get here? Your guess is as good as mine.
https://www.expansion-ammunition.com/ri ... html?amp=1
Treat
Yeah I think this is the new Texan outfit I mentioned a couple of posts back?Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldbloke
Local outfit here in Carterton in Wairarapa said in he next few months but for Aust I don't know
I've resisted the urge to stock up now so others can get some but once supply is back in full I will keep a larger stock in future - I'd magine others will do the same
Who knows when but it's gotta help.
I read somewhere there is another in Sth America.
A few arcing up
Fiocchi
https://www.arkansasedc.com/news-eve...uring-facility
Vihtavuori
https://www.nammo.com/story/new-primer-factory/
Is this a new record? I've not been keeping track.
$500 start price for federal large rifle match
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketpl...ing/4029876118
That’s no a bad price, sounds like next shipment will be $300 a box
No ones brought them yet.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Squirrel
Cripes I thought this was daylight robbery. Take me back to the days of 70 dollar Winchester primers, it wasn't that long ago!Quote:
Originally Posted by EmpireSafaris
I guess it's worth as much as anyone is willing to pay
In that case up to $300 would be a good price, $500 is just robberey this of course is my opinion and I for one would rather go without than pay inflated prices for stuff that was very likely bought for much less. No hate at those who do I just won't.Quote:
Originally Posted by EmpireSafaris
$150 for a tray of 100 is the record I think. Haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by Squirrel
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Correction $180Quote:
Originally Posted by Burb122
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Wow
FYI gents.
I've just discovered pistol primers are starting to turn up in Brisbane. Theycare SERVICIOS and ADVENTUROS primers from Argentinia. So it might improve soon. Report was that they were OK. Buying them by the 1,000s Oh $170 au for 1000