This is F**ked

Scalping is a fact of life, the Ex NZ Speaker of the House of Representatives, the Right Honorable Trevor Mallard admitted to flogging off 'event' tickets at highly inflated prices.

People can choose to 'play' .............. or to not play.

And if you are in 'Desperation Street' regarding stuff like this - then you have only yourself to blame. New Zealand is a pimple on the arse of the worlds pig - we have always suffered shortages. It's why we had the 'No 8 wire' reputation - we made do, we became innovative .............. but that was a while ago.

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Originally Posted by Tentman

I heard an interesting story re the RWS primers . . . Along the lines of "there was a container of RWS primers headed to NZ, enough to solve the shortage for the forseable future, however whilst enroute Beretta purchased RWS. The container of primers headed for NZ was turned around and ordered to be sent back" . I'd be very interested to know if its just a story or not, and if its not, how the decision was arrived at. The answer would certainly influence my purchasing decisions of the future!

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Well, I bought a box of 1,000 RWS SR primers at a very reasonable price a year ago, from the fella in Rotorua. Gun Supplies.

He had plenty. But they were selling fast.

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Originally Posted by Butch73

Mixed views on this, supply and demand is ok and I don't begrudge someone selling something at the new "market" price at a profit, but what I hate is those scalpers that hoover up all the components from the retailers when shipments arrive (that they never intend to use) and then whack them on trade me a day later at 200%+ mark ups because theres a shortage.

Making a few dollars by trading components that are scarce doesn't really get me excited, I'd much rather share any surplus i don't need, at the price I paid (or cost to replace) and feel good that a fellow hunter/shooter is able to keep doing what they love.

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^^^ exactly!


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Originally Posted by GDMP

Righto.....as I work 'in trade' I asked the big cheese at work today, what exactly is the situation as you know it, with primers.....and was told, it is expected that the supply situation regards primers in NZ should ease considerably in the 2nd half of 2023.To their knowledge there are no significant shipments of Federal or CCI on the horizon.However,RWS brand primers should be available soon on the local market, and Expansion brand (the new place making them in the US) should be available this year as well, initially in small rifle size and then large rifle sometime later in the year.So in the 2nd half of this year things should improve markedly for handloaders regards primer availability.No idea about pricing etc just availability.I am just repeating here what I was told.......so don't shoot the messenger.

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we can't mate. NO PRIMERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Trout

As for 257Weatherby,he had a item i wanted,i had a item he wanted.Items about the same value so we just meet up and swapped items.A good deal for both of us.No ripping off or price gouging.Good bugger to deal with.

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What U swap a tray of large primers for small lol

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So true and I did the same. Spent an absolute fortune gathering brass, primers, powder and projectiles cause the writing was on the wall and now I’m sitting pretty. I put my name on back orders over 18 months ago and have just been getting the suppliers to pass them on to the next on the list as I don’t need them. Hopefully those guys who are next on the list are using them and not trying to sell them in at ridiculous prices

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Originally Posted by Burb122

I personally think you are off with your 1990s vision. A huge majority of the new Gen hunters are internet savvy and do a lot of there shopping online and trademe. Literally 1000s of hunting gear and kit sold daily on trademe, let alone what’s sold online (why do retailers have websites I wonder)

Just saying. If many pay $65 for a 100 primers. What becomes the new normal price? And what do retailers want to now charge?

I guess I want this thread to head you all to not buy in. Just wait if you can.

I’m not a rich guy and to enjoy my sport I want to be as fair and reasonably as possible.

We all mocked the toilet paper people right. This is similar.


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The trouble is that you kids think you are the only one's here. :D

This last couple of years I've stepped away from target to focus on hunting. I knew I was ripping through the primers so this was a way to combat the lack of supply we've endured here in NZ. To me, shooting is shooting. But as it turns out, 45-70 is a lot more entertaining than 6.5 and I'm also not exploited from the lack of projectile supply. At best I can make it through 20 and my shoulder knows it's been shooting.

My 2c, if you get a chance to buy ANY bulk quantity of anything you should do it. All the bullshit price hikes for licensing are inevitable and inbound. So no, prices are not coming down. Just my take on it.

But I do agree that younger or newer shooters who are using trademe to buy supplies need to expand their sourcing skills. Your F.O.M.O is costing you so (like the wise fellas on here say) use back ordering or even better, join a club and bulk order.

But another thing. The firearms industry hurting so any time you can make a purchase from a real store and not trademe you'd be helping make sure the lifeblood of our sport is supported.
- I'm not shaming people for using trademe (I've bought the odd box when no shops had supply) but by buying ahead you win and so does the industry.

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Originally Posted by Tahr

A H&F jibe again. Whats your actual point? They been selling stuff 500% above retail??

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Yeah the H&F shits getting tired. Move on

While were on the topic of primers, anyone have some Fed210s theyre willing to part with? :XD:

I’m on holiday and can’t believe I just read six pages of shit. Here it is right here. Something only sells for what somebody is prepared to pay. Simple. Commerce 101. Don’t like it fuck up and fuck off somewhere else. Rant over.

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Originally Posted by Tararua Phil

Make your own. There's plenty of Utube vids showing you how.

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Lucky for some I and I’m sure as many other are time poor! Don’t have time to YouTube it let alone act on it I only just manage to stay active on here

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Originally Posted by Nathan F

I’m on holiday and can’t believe I just read six pages of shit. Here it is right here. Something only sells for what somebody is prepared to pay. Simple. Commerce 101. Don’t like it fuck up and fuck off somewhere else. Rant over.

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Fuck off, not correct I just bought 200 projectiles off here for less than my locals retail and someone would have being willing to pay much more but the seller sold them to cover his costs . If your all about commerce take your 101 and don’t read 6 pages when in the synopsis it clearly highlights the monstrosity of commerce fucking knob

[QUOTE=Kelton;1405005]Fuck off, not correct I just bought 200 projectiles off here for less than my locals retail and someone would have being willing to pay much more but the seller sold them to cover his costs . If your all about commerce take your 101 and don’t read 6 pages when in the synopsis it clearly highlights the monstrosity of commerce fucking knob[/

Well congratulations to you