We used to say "life is too short to tolerate useless dogs and inaccurate guns". Drastic measures were taken with both.
Nowadays I 'spose the useless dogs would have to be given to Dog Rescue and the inaccurate guns to Danny :) :)
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We used to say "life is too short to tolerate useless dogs and inaccurate guns". Drastic measures were taken with both.
Nowadays I 'spose the useless dogs would have to be given to Dog Rescue and the inaccurate guns to Danny :) :)
Well I’ve tried a Ramline and Browns Precision stock , about all that was around in the ‘80s, on my 308 Liteweight. Feck all difference in recoil but upset the balance of rifle. Noisy too. Went back to original wooden stock, far nicer to handle especially on cold days.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7mm tragic
As it happens my featherweight came with a Boyds laminate thumb hole stock.Quote:
Originally Posted by woods223
I just can't gel with the look and feel of the thumb hole stock so the first thing I did was put the action back in the original stock.
As a last resort I will try the boyds stock but I suspect it won't make any diffence.
I suspect I now know why it was for sale in the first place.
Don't expect miracles with the Finnbear either Danny, you are dealing with old school classic in which 1.5moa is very acceptable to the makers at the time. These were not known as tack drivers as we know of this day and age with modern engineering.Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyb
However, good luck with the process of bettering its performance. Enjoying the up dated posts.
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it either will or it won't but no matter what I will be satisfied knowing i have given it every chance to be the best it can be. As everyone knows I love a bit of a challenge and a bit of load development so in my element here. If the Finn cannot be dragged into sub moa it won't be the end of the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathias
My Sako 85 the walnut stock is a different recoil lug system, aquired a ken henderson carbon stock and the recoil system is the same set up as the tika, must have got lucky as both work well. Walnut stock is beded at the back tang a recoil lug done by Greystone, Carbon stock I fully beded using Devcon. Did put a limbsaver recoil pad on the walnut. Both mild to shoot with 178s at near 2600 from 308.
I would imagine Danny your Lupo is nice to shoot, modern design has achieved awesome things.
The Lupo is superb to shoot, even shooting heavies the recoil is akin to a 223, it's not fussy on ammo, easy to load for and with the shim kit it fits like a glove. if I had to have just 1 rifle it would be the Lupo that is for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by flock
Just had a birdbrain, rebarrel with a Gisborne job.
Danny - I bought my Featherweight 22.250 new. I said I had to bed it but Ive just remembered that I had the factory crown re-done too. It was quite rough. So not certain what made the difference. I got it down to shooting .5 moa in the end but only 2 or 3 shot groups and then it wandered all over the place. I liked the gun a lot. Burnt the barrel out in the end.
Couple ideas, don't cost much. Give it a JBs bore paste, I use croil light penertating oil then fowards and backwards a jag/rag JBs then clean it out as norm. Have heard of a guy inpegnating projecties with cutting compound then firing them, reckons it took a rifle from not shooting to shoting with 2 shots. A bore scope would be handy as well. Have a good lok at the crown also.
Well that should take some of the sting outta the recoil, just a spare extra thick grind to fit limbsaver I had left over from another project, not a perfect fit but before i buy a new one i wanna aee if it helps much. Certainly a lot softer that the factory one, it's hard like a rock :XD: if this makes it nicer to shoot I'll grab a new one and grind it to fit perfectly, the extra LOP will certainly help too.
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Will obviously keep the undamaged red one for if it it ever leaves my company.
beautiful job......should help no end...now Im 99% sure of the answer to this one...but you arent perchance trying to shoot rifle using hug yourself hold are you???? DEFINATELY will respond better to firm grip on forend....
Shooting off bags for load developement, final sighting will be done as per in the fieldQuote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
Greetings.
My Rem 700 ADL had a hard plastic butt plate for years. It certainly backed off the projectile quick. Early on I started backing off the loads a couple of grains for target shooting and more recently a lot more. As I got older I started getting recoil headaches after some of the shoots. A few years back my son gave me a spare Hogue stock he had and I had a suppressor fitted. A different rifle altogether now.
GPM.
but is your off hand on forestock or hugging yourself and manipulating the toe of stock???Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyb
Generally hold the fore. When I sight it in I will try a few different shooting positions to see if it effects poiQuote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
Dam! Must be something seriously wrong with my “old school classics”Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathias
Krico. .243 56 years old
Husky 1640 6.5x55 58 years old
Husky 1640. 30 06. 50 plus years
Sako .222 50 plus years
H&K 22lr. 50 plus years
ALL sub. MOA and better, all day, any day
Personally, wouldn’t have a new “modern” rifle on my arse for a wart
Good luck dannyb, keep it simple, don’t overthink it
Give the 150gr hotcor a go @dannyb . Same pill as the federal blue box, flat base and will smash anything inside the ranges you wanna shoot that winny
Appreciate all the suggestions, will get round to trying some or all of them, my range is out of action for a few weeks due to farming needs. Hence working on my neglected cruiser :cool:
While Dannyb is otherwise occupied I'll put a post on my mod 70 in 300 wsm. The price of ammo makes me even more mean n miserable so to strat I just roughly sighted it in, but went out last nite with the thermal and a pard 007s on the back of the rifle. Just enough lite from the stars to be able to wonder around in the dark, occasionally viewing the paddocks ahead as I'm cruising thru. So in this particular area I spy two wallaby's and down the far end some larger than rabbit ,animals, hoping they are pigs. As the paddock has a few trees and one or two Areas of wee copses . I used one for hiding behind and sneaked to within 100 mtrs, now I'm using a tripod to shoot off but for some reason I have lateral movement, I eventually get the target in the scope and its a dog fox, the other must be a bitch, trying to judge the swing I hurried the shot and after the bang I hear no twack, fuk missed.
This afternoon I took the winnie down to the south end range, I have an Eastern one as well, now my poor old right eye is coming to the end of vision and I get about a fraction of a second before it gets fairly dark, hence I looked away and then as soon as I looked back again I squeezed the trigger and straight away knew it went south, shit shot that is, bang on but 4 inches low. Took more care with the second and it felt good, about right but 1 inch to the left.
Got sick of my right eye so swapped shoulders and holy gamely clear as a bell,
It fell one inch below the one that was 1 inch left, that will do me an inch or should I say 1 MOA.
I'll go for another walk tonite as there was a sambar hind in the next paddock and a pig in the following one but the shot at the dog ruined any chance I might have had.
Shot the seating depth ladder today after somewhat of a sabatical from all things shooting related :yaeh am not durnk: sorry @SmokeyJason looks like the 165gn spbt's will do the job.....hopefully, will need to load up a few more confirmation rounds but the best group of the day was just shy of 1" at 100y (.9405") likely traveling at 2600fps or near enough. No chrono today as I didn't want to risk skewing group sizes.
For a lightish knock about short range rifle with a 2.5-8 scope that's plenty good enough.
The thicker limbsaver was a game changer so will definitely buy a new one and shape it perfectly for this stock, absolutely transformed the rifle with extra LOP and decent recoil absorbing it no longer is a handful.
Fingers crossed when I get around to loading the confirmation rounds it stays consistent...... could be a while as I have no intention of sitting at the loading bench any time soon.
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People often don't realise how important it is for the rifle to fit the shooter, especially if it's light or somewhat lively.
Whilst it definitely helps I have shot many a good group with short light rifles, I also shot a charge ladder with 150gn NBT's the same session as my seating depth ladder with the 165gn spbt's, there was nothing spectacular about any of the NBT loads, the best group was just over 1" everything else was 1.5-2"Quote:
Originally Posted by No.3
they would be spectacular inside 200 yards when smack into a redskin all the same.
So after almost selling this rifle it ended up being the only 1 I have kept other than my .22 :yaeh am not durnk:
Was swapping out the scope this morning from a Monarch 2.5-8 to a Monarch 3 3-12× to make this rifle more of an all rounder rather than a dedicated light bush rifle.....soon as I sat the rifle in the gun vice I noticed the scope seemed loose.....closer inspection revealed the weaver base screws had worked them selves nearly all the way out :psychotic: have to wonder if this has been the prime cause of my struggle to find consistent accuracy :pissed off: highly likely I'd say :O_O:
Have added some blue loktite and re torqued the bases, guess next trip to the range will reveal all :roll:
Of course the other very real and valid concern is, is the load I developed still gonna shoot sub moa or was it a fluke both times :O_O: won't know till I get to the range next time
I feel your pain. I've had the same issue with a certain 308... Blue Loctite, 3 ugga duggas of torque later and the problem magically went away :thumbsup:
I seem to recall on more than one occasion suggesting this needs checked as part of initial checks,I got caught out with it twice in short order,strangely enough both times after having suppressor fitted...and one of those was my old model 70..... went from 3-4" back to sub inch again.Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyb
Yup, amazing how many times the simplest thing turns out to be the problem :O_O:Quote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
I feel a photo of clover leaf groups coming some time in very near future..... AND if really lucky will see a group wit hmany different loads chucked into it......be REALLY interesting to see if it behaves as mine used to do...
Fingers crossed, just need the weather to cut me a break :ORLY: either Gail force winds or pissing down every time I have a day off lately :psychotic:Quote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
@dannyb you been back to the range yet? Pretty keen to see if your accuracy issues cleared themselves up yet?
Not yet been working night shift :O_O: hopefully this weekendQuote:
Originally Posted by Blackfern
Hmmpffff !!!! Shot 3 x 3 round groups with the featherweight today average group size was a honest 1.5" :psychotic: E.S was 14.2 average velocity was 2581fps poi was consistent if anything there was more horizontal spread than anything else I would put that down to the trigger being heavier than I'm used to.
Will call it a 300y load for now, not gonna fiddle any further till I can get it bedded and get the trigger a wee bit lighter.
It's probably not bad for what it is but it's frustrating knowing I can do much much better.
Trigger is a ten minute adjustment with two tiny spanners and flat blade screwdriver.mine would be safe down to stupidly light but found 3lbish best
I prefer mine 2lb or less but that's just my preference. I'll adjust it when I have it out the stock for bedding, currently it's sighted in so it'll do for now, fine for minute of deer shoulder out to 3-400 yardsQuote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
