Anybody firing and reloading these? what sort of gun, barrel length, projectile and velocity?
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Anybody firing and reloading these? what sort of gun, barrel length, projectile and velocity?
Ask @Norway
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Actually I think I might have come across a video of his on youtube. It is an interesting round out of an AR.
Out of an AR with limited magazine lenght it would be nice. Out of an ordinary bolt gun I can see no reason why not go 6,5x47 or 6,4 Creedmoor. If you want moderate velocity with 32gr powder, but 32gr powder in the bigger case and get the same velocity. My action was a 6PPC so unable to use a longer cartridge than 6,5 Grendel.Quote:
Originally Posted by steven
Very happy with my Grendel, but cannot see a reason to power-handicap oneself unless magazine lenght dictates this cartridge.
My data:
Barrel Lilja 20"
Bullet 123gr Amax
V0 775 msec/ 2540 fps
Powder CFE223 30+ grains
Accuracy so far has been "disturbing".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZVshUg7QGs
"disturbing" as in f*** how did I miss the 20ft barn? or F*** is that 4 shots in the same hole?
Ah this is a new youtube, one I missed....that is some grouping.
A lazy on top of each other at 484m. Impressive.
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I'm pretty sure @Norway's doing it ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gug0jNJ62Bw
Doh !!!! Just re-read the rest of the post ... @Norway already posted ... :sick: :wtfsmilie: :geezimfuckedinthehead:
Very nice :cool:
I have a Grendel to put together & sort out tomorrow.
I could only dream about it shooting that well :thumbsup:
AR15? A mate is doing it to a CZ527 conversion from 7.62x39 to Grendel which has triggered my interest in the cartridge. I must admit seeing some of the accuracy this 6.5mm can do (yet its based on the AK round) and its adequate energy I am surprised that its not got a big following.
Yep AR15 the first of 6 different calibre uppers I'm doingQuote:
Originally Posted by steven
It feels like I've been waiting for the bits forever....
Looking forward to picking it up from the couriers tomorrow :)
PS its not a 6.5 :D
OK then keep us guessing?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg
7.62x39, 6.8spc, 450, 20 practical..... blahblah
I believe it's based on the 6 PPC, hence the precision potential. I think it would be better to go 6,5x47 or 6,5 Creedmoor where the magazine length allows. It seems daft to handicap oneself just for "fun".Quote:
Originally Posted by steven
I seen it and yes its not a 6.5 :) but it is cool:D:DQuote:
Originally Posted by 300CALMAN
Never seen that oxymoron before. Is this a case of "damn you autospell!" ?Quote:
Originally Posted by mikee
;)
must be 30 cal then:PQuote:
Originally Posted by Norway
@Norway , Could you get away with a .223 size suppressor and lighter weight barrell compared to say the .260 rem ?
Im thinking the main advantage of a grendel would potentially be a lighter rifle overall than for 308 based cases. This is for hunting, not steel. If you limit your range to 300m, the lesser kinetic energy and velocity/BC could be OK.
There doesn't seem to be a wide range of high quality donor actions with short stroke and big base. Just the cz and those old sakos that were made in 6mm PPC. Are there others ?
AR15
https://nzar15.com/store/index.php?i...oller=category
I think all you need to do is build a new upper for it or swap the barrel out? new gas block? and gas tube?
Otherwise any rifle based on the 7.62 x 39mm ie AK47 round?
Zastava m85 with the 7.62 bolt face or just open the face up on a CZ or vixen
If the CZ is a 7.62x39 I dont think it needs altering? if it does my mate is in for some more expense
I think it requires a bit more than just altering the bolt face. There would be a bit of tricky work to do on the mag well and the feeding, specially on the sako.Quote:
Originally Posted by scoped
You are best to start with the right gun from the start I think.
The old BSA hunter in 222 could be a good candidate as well. I have converted one from 22 hornet to 7,62x39 and the feeding from the mag was really the difficult part.
Apparently the new mini howa is going to come with 7.62x39 barrels , that would be another candidate.
6.5tcu is basically the same, I am getting almost Identical speeds with my TCU to my mate with his AR in 6.5 Grendel. Actually slightly faster as i have 4 inch longer barrel :)
Yeah the grendel would be a sweet round for that little actionQuote:
Originally Posted by Friwi
Mine was a 7.62x39 CZ 527 its now a 14.5" Barrel 6.5 Grendel, 123r Amax at 2475 and been out this morning shooting at steel 600m no problems. shot a few Sika (12+) with it now and one big Red Stag ranges from 12m - 320m wouldn't have taken ten steps between them after the bullet hit. There a photo in another thread somewhere?
Howa to release their mini action in 6.5 gredel in 2016
Not sure. But for instance the silencer Atec TMM4 is 220 grams and I am sure there is similar options from other manufacturers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagheera
I absolutely agree with you light rifle observation. That was my goal for this rifle, but I didn't check the component weight before building so ended up with an ordinary rifle.
At 300 meters the Grendel/123gr bullet hits with the same velocity as a 22-250/65 gr bullet but more than double the energy. If you're happy with that, it's fine. I've only shot three small deer with mine so cannot comment properly.
One deer fell on the spot.
One running deer stumbled and fell.
One deer ran for 10 seconds, but fortunately in a circle so it ended up where it was shot.