H4895 in 223

I was just wondering if anyone uses H4895 in their .223? I'm about to start loading for the .303, .308 and .223. I am planning to use H4895 in the 303 and 308. Many posts have recommended that H4895 is too slow for the 223, while others have said it's great (on overseas forums). I'm planning to use the Sierra 55gr Game Kings. The Buffalo ammo I usually use has this projectile, but it's not available here at the moment. Has anyone here have any first hand use? It would be great in these times of component shortages to use one type of powder. Thanks in advance. :)

H4895 is AR2206H. And plenty people on here using 2206H for 223.

24.5grns of AR 2206h is a good load,for your 55grn pill in .223.....I believe dama dama is correct I can never remember which way around they are with the equivilents so have to look them up...I use the hogdgon equivilent or 2213 in the mighty 270 and find it great,I interchange the data between the two happily BECAUSE IM NOT AT MAXIMUM.....if hotrodding loads,all bets are off,reduce and work back up...low to middle loads should be fine as any small different in burn rate wont push over edge.

4895 is also very close to Win748 which is fine in 223. I use 25gr of win 748 or Belmont 748 (or Belmont Action Rifle aka 747) with 69gr bullets.

As a broad guide:
Powder equivalents – ADI World Class Powders and Ammunition

Yep i use 2206H in 223, behind bullets from 55gr to 75gr, it goes good and gives higher velocities than 2208

I use 2206H in .308 and .303 I did use 2206 ( old mulwex powder slightlly faster) in.222 so yes you can use it in all 3.

ADI make the powder, send it to Hogden, who package and market it as H4895. ADI make and supply a lot of different powders to other companies.

Greetings @bumblefoot and all,
AR2206H (H4895) is currently my go to powder for my .223, .308 and .303 rIfles. In my T3x .223 25.5 grains with the 55 grain projectile gives 3,130 fps from the standard 570mm barrel and 25 grains with the 69 grain Match King gives 2,960 fps. Both are just under ADI/ Hodgdon max but are all that I can easily fit in the case. The cases are R-P which have a bit more capacity than other US cases and a lot more capacity than some continental cases. In my .308 47 grains of AR2206H gave 2,900 fps with the 125 grain TNT, 44 grains gave 2,670 fps with the Hornady 150 grain Interlock and 43 grains gave 2,570 fps with the 165 grain Hornady Interlock. All in my Rem 700 with a 510mm barrel. The .308 loads are 1 to 2 grains under max. My light loads in the .303 are great as well. A very flexible powder.
Regards Grandpamac.

Yes I use 2206H in my 308. And am currently in the process of working up loads for my 223 using it too.

its very good powder......it CAN even be used in 270w...but has low load density so not ideal.

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ADI make the powder, send it to Hogden, who package and market it as H4895. ADI make and supply a lot of different powders to other companies.

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What he said.
They are the same powder just different label.
That was from Adi in an email I saw with my own eyes.

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Thank you everyone! You've all been a great help! Just getting back into handloading after a 30-ish year hiatus. The only powder experience I have is using IMR4895 in the 303 and H4831 in the 270.

It's interesting to see the variation in load data for the different projectiles. How do you know what set to use when he projectile you're going to use (Sierra 55gr Game King) isn't listed. I guess the bottom projectile looks the closest. The Barnes projectile has a much lower max load! Why would that be?

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The Barnes projectile has a much lower max load! Why would that be?

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Longer bearing surface or harder projectile (Barnes are solid copper aren't they?).

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Longer bearing surface or harder projectile (Barnes are solid copper aren't they?).

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Ah I see, That makes sense! Thanks :)

yip they are longer and harder...that said I use same load for mine as its not a super hot load to begin with.

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its very good powder......it CAN even be used in 270w...but has low load density so not ideal.

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I have done 270 and 243 loads with it. But not ideal by any means.

Thank you everyone for the help. This forum and you good buggers are great! :thumbsup:

Yes I use it in the .223 for a load with 70 grain bullets. 25.3 grains give under an inch accuracy at 100 metres and velocity of 2990 fps in a 20 inch barrel. (Although I have not chronographed the 55 grain bullets with it, I would use it happily with 55 grain bullets too and expect to get higher velocities than 2208, which it is often compared with.) In my experience reloading with this powder in a couple of different cartridges, it lives up to its book velocities.

If I could find some I would have more....

26gr of 2206H with the Sierra 55gr boattail soft point doing 3125fps from an 18in barrel.
Used 2206H in 308 as well with some mild success.

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Yep i use 2206H in 223, behind bullets from 55gr to 75gr, it goes good and gives higher velocities than 2208

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And 2208 is I think a larger grain?? Makes for settling 2208 into 223 cases a pain in the ar$e - and seating the 60gr VMax consistently is something I thought would have been straight forward - WITH a micro adjusting seating attachment - crushing almost every time and way off max load! 2206H may yet be my next go-to as well...

try tapping the side of the case a dozen times with your teaspoon,it may settle the grains down a bit better,it works in bigger cases well...drop tubes,yeah not so much.