Help design the NZHS Forum Wildcat - Part 2.5 - Caliber

Seems we have a clear winner - 243 - 8mm

Lets refine it a little more

7mm 140g Barnes TTSX :thumbsup:

Gunna vote for it then??

I have a 7mm barrel sitting round somewhere...

i still vote 284 short improved as it would be good if there was more than me pay for the remmer:P

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Originally Posted by shaka

i still vote 284 short improved as it would be good if there was more than me pay for the remmer:P

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Thats where my vote is going to go to..however this is a group game and we still have a wee way to go :)

Didnt know you could vote for more than one option:TT TT:

what did you want your other to be?

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Originally Posted by shaka

i still vote 284 short improved as it would be good if there was more than me pay for the remmer:P

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I like this too.

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Originally Posted by Spanners

what did you want your other to be?

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30cal please.

Back to my old favourite....7mm :D that shortened improved 284 sounds interesting...enough grunt to drive a dirty old heavy lead nose for the bush hobbits or a sleek much improved pill for those with steady hands....(although this is for ~200 yard shots) Would have a lot of potential applications across the country

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Originally Posted by horihunter

Back to my old favourite....7mm :D that shortened improved 284 sounds interesting...enough grunt to drive a dirty old heavy lead nose for the bush hobbits or a sleek much improved pill for those with steady hands....(although this is for ~200 yard shots) Would have a lot of potential applications across the country

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And Barnes are making a lovely 145g MRX.

I like the sound of the Shortened and Improved 284. Could be a good alrounder, Corelot bricks for up close and still enough grunt to push an A-max or similar:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Shootm

I like the sound of the Shortened and Improved 284. Could be a good alrounder, Corelot bricks for up close and still enough grunt to push an A-max or similar:thumbsup:

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7mmSAUM shorter and slightly more powder capacity :P

Hmm.. IIRC SAUM is still to long for a SA from the mag when using pills that arnt below the neck

It would be nice to not go magnum.

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Originally Posted by Spanners

Hmm.. IIRC SAUM is still to long for a SA from the mag when using pills that arnt below the neck

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Well, the saum pushes an A-Max at 3000fps easily, and a mag fit load can be had with 150g Ballistic Tips and any projectile shorter, -all in a short action , and comes alive with 2217.

Dont forget we are only talking the average hunter, for under 300yrd shots, re the first post on this subject. :thumbsup:

Correct - and the whole point is a 'Wildcat' too :P

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Originally Posted by DAF

7mmSAUM shorter and slightly more powder capacity :P

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Yeah but how about something a bit different..........something you have to make brass to suit, not just load from off the shelf.

A slightly shortened lets say 2.00 inch 6mm 284 shooting the 105gr-115gr might be worth a look?

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Originally Posted by Terminator

A slightly shortened lets say 2.00 inch 6mm 284 shooting the 105gr-115gr might be worth a look?

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Terminator, are you after 308 case capacity in 6mm or 25 cal or a little more like a shortened rem mag case @ 2 inches case length, necked to 6mm or 25 cal......

Do we call it 7mm and move on?

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Originally Posted by Spanners

Do we call it 7mm and move on?

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Thats what the votes say:ORLY:

Dear I ask?

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Originally Posted by Wildman

Dear I ask?

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7mm it is?

Thought it was...

Sweet

well what ever 7mm wildcat you come up with i am just gonna wildcat it to 30 cal :P
greg

I have been through the 7mm wildcat process I now have a 7mm saum shortened 200 thou. After a lot of dicking around I finally have it shooting really well. 162 amax's going 2800 -2850, The rear bearing surface of the bullet is not below the neck shoulder junction and the bullets can feed out of a model 7 mag and still reach the lands.


http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h1...ing_Layer1.jpg


Taking an existing cartridge and changing the length/profile with a form die is not straight forward, it requires precise annealing, a decent form die, neck cutting/trimming, neck turning. Its a lot of work, and then there are unforeseen problems along the way. Such as case folds which I managed to overcome to an extent by changing the order of events...

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h1...nal_Layer1.jpg

I am happy enough with the rifle now, and I learned a lot but if I was starting again I don't know if I would bother. After the first couple of batches of brass forming it starts to wear thin, it's a lot of work.......

If you guys are serious (this seems to be dragging on and going nowhere) save yourselves a shitload of hassle and just Ackley improve something, or neck something up and ackley improve it.

poor .303 didnt stand a chance

We could shorten the .303 brass Toby, to fit it in a short action!

Does that improve anything?

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Originally Posted by Toby

Does that improve anything?

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Absolutely nothing.

haha righto then.

I still reckon crzyman was on to some thing with his 416-223 idea :thumbsup:

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0-200y capable short action in 7mm, you could neck down a 308 case. oh hang on a minute:D

7mm on a 250 case? Is that done already

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7x 39?

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Originally Posted by veitnamcam

7x 39?

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7.62X 39 has been done VC ,why I don't know .

7 not 7.62 as 7 was voted for? 200y isnt much of an ask, 44magnum/7?